tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post122891967499010091..comments2023-09-16T04:10:06.024-07:00Comments on n e u f n e u f: i am very happy the rightist supremes won out on guns99http://www.blogger.com/profile/10615184682315410012noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-49461821279906295172010-07-01T15:43:16.012-07:002010-07-01T15:43:16.012-07:00I'm closing comments on this thread because I&...I'm closing comments on this thread because I've done a post about it. Anyone who wishes to address this matter further, should go <a href="http://neufneuf.blogspot.com/2010/07/1st-and-2nd-amendments-duking-it-out-on.html" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-21407638687841665892010-06-30T19:05:29.283-07:002010-06-30T19:05:29.283-07:00Any time you want to come back, you are welcome.Any time you want to come back, you are welcome.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-45240404741261572782010-06-30T18:59:13.691-07:002010-06-30T18:59:13.691-07:00Also...
99 you accused me of "insulting"...Also...<br /><br />99 you accused me of "insulting" you. That was the last straw with me. Just because I said something you didn't like doesn't mean it's an insult.<br /><br />That's why I'm done here...either someone falls in line with 99's program or she's "insulted".<br /><br />This is hardly a place for the free exchange and critique of ideas...Not if your ideas don't match the host's.Blue!https://www.blogger.com/profile/05953752383431695433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-65158662196376919282010-06-30T18:54:00.406-07:002010-06-30T18:54:00.406-07:0099
2nd Amendment
A well regulated militia, being ...99<br /><br />2nd Amendment<br />A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.<br /><br />Seems state and local governments are the "well regulated" part of that amendment. The SCOTUS just trumped state and local government's "well regulating" firearms. <br />In 1919 the 18th amendment was repealed (prohibition) yet there are 100's of dry counties in America. Seems Chicago or any other city should be able to ban HANDGUN ownership if they deem it necessary for the common peace. Chicago didn't ban firearms...they banned HANDGUNS which have killed thousands, no 10's of thousands over the years in that city. <br /><br />As for the rest of your screed 99...you're still assigning to me positions I never took, using loaded language to antagonize (like I'm agonizing over this) and stuff like that. If there's any agony 99 it's me agonizingly trying to convey a point without you becoming defensive and unglued Jeesus!<br /><br />My main points...<br />1. states and cities should be able to regulate HANDGUNS as they see fit, your Clint Eastwood Unforgiven example is a movie 99, not real world. Movies are those things where one "suspends disbelief"...you need to remember that.<br /><br />2. Guns won't save us from government tyranny, not anymore. They only serve to give people a false sense of security that they're on guard against a rampaging government. The government can now subdue this country from a bunker buried in a mountain somewhere...Hell they could just destroy the dollar and let all of you gun nuts go at it...and then vacuum up the mess when it's all over. Your gun won't stop a government intent on fascist dictatorship.<br /><br />99 this is your wedge issue not mine...I stated my opinion and you've been hopping mad about that ever since...earth to 99...we don't agree about this...let it the hell go.<br /><br />And for the record I NEVER said I was 'non-violent. I work for peace, I'm not a pacifist. I know what kind of world we live in...and I'm working to raise it's consciousness before I leave. You seem to feel that everyone should think like you do or something is wrong with them. <br /><br />Everything else you wrote bears little resemblance to anything I wrote or said...<br /><br />I'm probably done commenting on your blog 99...Seems you only want people to mirror your thoughts and feelings...not actually express what they're really thinking.<br /><br />Have a nice life Agent 99Blue!https://www.blogger.com/profile/05953752383431695433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-68661259823790782262010-06-30T14:44:48.132-07:002010-06-30T14:44:48.132-07:00Part Four
Yours will only continue the same old p...Part Four<br /><br /><i>Yours will only continue the same old paradigm and we'll be fighting for our freedom again down the road. A neverending cycle.</i><br /><br />Fallacy. NOTHING about what I advocate continues the dominant paradigm. We may or may NOT be fighting again down the line... IF there is a down the line for any living things. This never ending cycle business is EVIDENCE you do NOT grok the imperatives.<br /><br />Again, I beseech you to listen to to that Derrick Jensen lecture. Not only does he make mincemeat of your position, but he's SUPREMELY clear on why you should be GIDDY with love to learn how wrong you are.<br /><br /><i>Anyone that chooses to read back this thread will see I've been consistent in my position...you 99 have railed all over the place with ridicule and derision of what I think.</i><br /><br />I have been mirroring your insults, hoping to shock you into realizing they ARE insults, thinking my expression of love and solidarity with you before would help you see that I'm not some harridan who's gone native on you here, but someone staying consistent with her solidarity, trying to drag you out of a DANGEROUS mind set. It is dangerous because it won't ever address the threat to all life blooming right now... might if this threat would wait some generations... and dangerous because you are furiously fueling the civil war you so wish to avoid.<br /><br /><i>Guns won't save us...it's that simple.</i><br /><br />Just EXACTLY like guns don't kill people. People kill people. And if people are killing massive numbers of people AND the planet, they MUST be stopped. Not generations from now. <b>NOW</b>. Anyone who loves humanity, loves living things, loves the earth, loves their family and friends, will do what it takes to stop them <b>NOW</b>. A truly nonviolent person would NEVER brook this destruction while still living and breathing. They would get straight to the heart of the matter and make it stop. If the perps make it so force has to be used, force is used. If the perps make it so that force must be violent, that force is violent.<br /><br />Nonviolence is HALTING the violence, is self-defense, EVEN when it has to go out from its home to snuff the violence, even when the violence requires violence to halt it.<br /><br />A nonviolent guy breaking up a fight to the death rarely can just say "halt!" to be effective. He has to, at the least, manhandle combatants, and he DOES it, BECAUSE he's nonviolent.<br /><br />[end]wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-80348182874020240462010-06-30T14:44:17.989-07:002010-06-30T14:44:17.989-07:00Part Three
Yes I believe your position is short s...Part Three<br /><br /><i>Yes I believe your position is short sighted</i><br /><br />You're wrong.<br /><br /><i>you seem to focus on fighting them in a game they've rigged...</i><br /><br />You have to use the materials at hand. Not my fault we've let them rig it, while wasting ALL this time fighting people more our own size on the streets and on the tubes INSTEAD of the enemy. It isn't as though I haven't been bellowing about this to everyone for a very long time.<br /><br /><i>My focus is on higher values...</i><br /><br />Bully. So is mine. So are a lot of people's. We have to drag our focus from that to WHAT IS ACTUAL.<br /><br /><i>If we were to take a stance they haven't prepared for and can't comprehend, disengage from their system and confound them. I think humanity will have learned a new thing in the process and rise higher in it's existence...</i><br /><br />They are NOT prepared for massive, MASSIVE, uprising, no matter how well-equipped to put it down they are. It would bring their whole thing to a halt instanter if they did put it down.<br /><br />"The smartest thing the Nazi's did was to make it so that every step of the way they made it so it was in the Jews' rational best interest to not resist. ... I'll tell you something very interesting, which is that the Jews who participated in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising had a higher rate of survival than those who went along. The Jews who participated in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising had a higher rate of survival than those who went along. The Jews who participated in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising had a higher rate of survival than those who went along." [quoth Derrick Jensen]<br /><br />[continued]wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-12081823637069756712010-06-30T14:42:44.056-07:002010-06-30T14:42:44.056-07:00Part Two
That's what the soulless plutocrats ...Part Two<br /><br /><i>That's what the soulless plutocrats know and are creating as we speak. Citizen vs citizen...deconstruct the economy, ruin the currency let the citizens war with each other and when the time is right they'll swope in and clean up the mess and declare they're saviors who averted a disaster.</i><br /><br />WHY DO YOU THINK I SCREAM AT PEOPLE'S DIVISIVE LANGUAGE? WHY DO YOU THINK I HAVE BEGGING THE JACKASSES OF BLOGISTAN TO <b>QUIT</b> SENSATIONALIZING THE LIVING SNOT OUT OF EVERY WEDGE ISSUE? WHY DO YOU THINK I QUIT HELPING BRAD FRIEDMAN?<br /><br />It is precisely because of THIS.<br /><br />But you are loaded for bear on THIS wedge issue, Blue! If this civil war scenario is what you wish to PREVENT, you will shut yer insulting yap about it. Man up! Drop yer mental conditioning. Lose the lifetime of agonizing over the senseless deaths from gun violence. Quit avoiding the REAL killers, the humans doing the killing and the society that brings them to it.<br /><br />WE make this world. WE have let sociopaths take it over because we didn't want to be bothered with that stuff. It has turned the inner cities into places of such violence and subhumanity that decent people have dreamt of shooting them off world, but each one of those bullet holes was really aimed at everyone. I don't say that means there's no personal responsibility, but I do understand.<br /><br />NOT GOOD ENOUGH! And since no one woke up to use resolve where it would do the most good, NOW it's going to take FORCE. The only good thing about this OBSCENE state of affairs is there is a glimmer of a possibility it will FINALLY wake people up to the real enemy, and give them the determination to USE that force. [And don't give me the "new" peace and love paradigm, I stuck daisies in too many gun barrels decades ago. THEY BUY OFF PEACE AND LOVE. Works like a charm. Been there, done that, the t-shirt has disintegrated.]<br /><br />[continued]wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-44035072397668196962010-06-30T14:41:27.219-07:002010-06-30T14:41:27.219-07:00Part One
Blogger won't let this response fit ...Part One<br /><br />Blogger won't let this response fit in one post.<br /><br />One by one:<br /><br /><i>My simple statement that I repeated several times here is that any local government or state even HAS THE RIGHT TO REGULATE GUNS as they see fit...The government (SCOTUS) has taken that right from localities...that can't be a good thing.</i><br /><br />The CONSTITUTION states that! Because some have twisted THAT to get rid of guns, doesn't make it a lawful right in the United States. For some reason I'm thinking of that Clint Eastwood blockbuster, "Unforgiven", where he and his buddy are gunfighters and they come to a town where no guns are allowed.<br /><br /><i>I understand the necessity to protect one's family and home...I however don't understand or agree with the notion that our guns are our sole protection against a government that doesn't need troops on the ground to subdue it's population...</i><br /><br />It happens that guns have been just about our sole protection, but the Constitution gives us the lawful right to bear ARMS... so it's conceivable we could do better balance-of-power-wise, but even if not, insofar as they don't use their drones and they come to your door, you are, or can be about evenly matched... which is probably why they're so into lobbing grenades ahead of themselves now... but, since no one is leaping up to PROSECUTE them for it... we're stuck needing to grenade-proof our homes.<br /><br /><i>in that case guns will only be effective in civil war (against one's neighbor's).</i><br /><br />I agree that the Democratic Fascists and the Republican Fascists are trying pretty hard to start a Civil War. One of their MAIN tools is this bottomless fight by the "left" [what a laugh] to unwrite the 2nd Amendment, and, worse, to insult the living snot out of anyone who sees the wisdom in it, whether or not they personally choose to bear arms.<br /><br />That's also a BIG leap to say this makes them ONLY good for civil war. When a population is so disadvantaged against their government, they have only numbers and/or strategy on their side, and I can't explain to you where the guns are so important to the strategists without it sounding like I'm some kind of terrorist. You have a good head, use it.<br /><br />[continued]wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-82026832110211771542010-06-30T06:21:06.855-07:002010-06-30T06:21:06.855-07:0099
Bluebear's reaction has shown that this co...99<br /><br />Bluebear's reaction has shown that this convo has careened off the rails...<br /><br />My simple statement that I repeated several times here is that any local government or state even HAS THE RIGHT TO REGULATE GUNS as they see fit...The government (SCOTUS) has taken that right from localities...that can't be a good thing.<br /><br />I've also agreed that guns for anything more than home protection are useless. Again you've seemed to have assigned to me a position that I never stated or taken. <br /><br />You seem to think our guns will be protection against a government domestic or foreign that decides to come against us, I wholehearted disagree because those entities have much more technological hardware than we could even imagine...I feel there are other options besides that, I've spelled those out here. <br /><br />I understand the necessity to protect one's family and home...I however don't understand or agree with the notion that our guns are our sole protection against a government that doesn't need troops on the ground to subdue it's population...in that case guns will only be effective in civil war (against one's neighbor's).That's what the soulless plutocrats know and are creating as we speak. Citizen vs citizen...deconstruct the economy, ruin the currency let the citizens war with each other and when the time is right they'll swope in and clean up the mess and declare they're saviors who averted a disaster. <br /><br />Yes I believe your position is short sighted, you seem to focus on fighting them in a game they've rigged...My focus is on higher values...If we were to take a stance they haven't prepared for and can't comprehend, disengage from their system and confound them. I think humanity will have learned a new thing in the process and rise higher in it's existence...Yours will only continue the same old paradigm and we'll be fighting for our freedom again down the road. A neverending cycle.<br /><br />Anyone that chooses to read back this thread will see I've been consistent in my position...you 99 have railed all over the place with ridicule and derision of what I think.<br /><br />Guns won't save us...it's that simple. I'm done again. Although I will check back to see if you've twisted my position into something ridiculous. Deal with what I say 99...not how you can turned into something ludicrous.<br /><br />PeaceBlue!https://www.blogger.com/profile/05953752383431695433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-78051111102497248132010-06-29T23:14:26.399-07:002010-06-29T23:14:26.399-07:00Canadians have more guns per capita than we do, an...Canadians have more guns per capita than we do, and radically lower gun violence. Switzerland MANDATES a gun for every citizen, including training in how to properly use it. Go find Michael Moore's excellent documentary on guns... Bowling for Columbine. He covers extensively how the availability of guns thing has no correlation with gun violence. And, if I am not mistaken, even Naomi Klein admits that the prelude to closing down a society is disarming its citizens.<br /><br />So. In the matter of guns, for all the reasons I have stated, and all the work that has been done on the matter, I have had to grow a pair, had to open my slammed-shut mind to allow as how that old saw about guns not killing people is DIRT TRUE, and even more lives and quantum agony can be saved by the use of them by decent people, true humans AND in such a world where fatsos and thugs can take everything away from you at whim, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TELLING PEOPLE THEY CAN'T HAVE WHATEVER MEANS OF SELF-DEFENSE THEY DEEM APPROPRIATE.<br /><br />You asked earlier why I don't want cities being able to pass gun control laws. It's not right and it's unconstitutional and it's a fucking fascists-in-denial idea of liberalism. I hate always to be asking you to cut out so much time to learn about things, but you REALLY should <a href="http://moonbase99.blogspot.com/2009/03/blog-post.html" rel="nofollow">take out a couple hours to listen carefully to Derrick Jensen</a>.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-20135599478686138472010-06-29T21:39:57.272-07:002010-06-29T21:39:57.272-07:00You know what! I was thinking the SAME thing whil...You know what! I was thinking the SAME thing while I was writing it! :-Pwimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-47374198998374731102010-06-29T21:33:39.262-07:002010-06-29T21:33:39.262-07:00Sounds like fun...Sounds like fun...Bluebear2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14951033337358355699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-14747773529599183692010-06-29T21:29:24.306-07:002010-06-29T21:29:24.306-07:00Oh! You nailed me here: "one whose sole ide...Oh! You nailed me here: "one whose sole idea about the times we live in is grab your guns".... I better run right off, get naked, paint my face and pretend I never heard of America....wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-17030868704982182962010-06-29T21:22:56.927-07:002010-06-29T21:22:56.927-07:00LOLLOLwimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-25845551383071357702010-06-29T19:33:38.896-07:002010-06-29T19:33:38.896-07:00There is a story circulating that back in the late...There is a story circulating that back in the late 90's a Venezuelan indigenous jungle tribe was granted sovereign autonomy by the Venezuelan government...reporters rushed out to the jungle to get the tribe's reaction. <br /><br />When asked what they thought about Venezuela granting them their autonomy the tribal elder asked..."What's a Venezuela"?<br /><br />They had no idea that a Venezuela even existed...they didn't win their autonomy by armed conflict or any conflict at all...they simply grooved along doing their thing and taking care of their own.<br /><br />That's just one example...<br /><br />99 you're accusing me of anger when I'm not angry...you're making up and assigning me positions I never stated or took. You're not being fair or rational here. But it's fitting for one whose sole idea about the times we live in is grab your guns.<br /><br />I'll walk my walk...you'll walk yours...I think mine will be a more pleasant stroll, dare I say more meaningful.Blue!https://www.blogger.com/profile/05953752383431695433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-77057146707039318922010-06-29T18:48:14.016-07:002010-06-29T18:48:14.016-07:00I guess the "anger" is on the other foot...I guess the "anger" is on the other foot and the "resolve" has also traded places.<br /><br />The indian wars were not Hollywood. I have been at pains to present that.<br /><br />And, while they indeed lost those wars, they won many battles by hacking at wasichu's hubris.<br /><br />The bottom line does NOT change. Your new thinking is PERFECT for a society that wishes to support it, to train it into their children and enforce it over the mass media.<br /><br />The mass media belongs to wasichu. They will halt this effort before it gets out of the church basements and school gyms. And the people committed to this effort—barring leadership by a Gandhi or a King WHO CAN STAY ALIVE—won't stop having to drive their cars, won't stop wanting to live in their houses with heat in the winter and air conditioning in the summer. They won't stop buying clothes. They won't stop eating corporate food. THEY WON'T DO IT!<br /><br />THEY CAN'T. There's no support system for it. No feasible alternative for most of them. They CAN'T starve the NWO. What shards of what used to be known as "middle class" there are left are too terrified of losing their jobs to help starve the beast.<br /><br />And I'm not advocating shootouts in the streets unless masses can be gotten to do it... ALL over the world. But I think intelligent targeting could work quite nicely, especially if armed. I'm not EVEN advocating that so much as I am advocating for the Constitution and for everyone's right to make their government as afraid of them as possible. PLUS, screaming my head off for the JUDGMENTAL peaceniks—in direct contrast with real peaceniks—to STFU about their gun and misspelled sign toting brothers and sisters. THEY HAVE NO RIGHT AND NO GROUNDS.<br /><br />There's a freight train bearing down on you and you're acting as though we have generations to turn this around. We could have only weeks. Once the clamp is all the way down, you are a productive corporate slave or you are in a camp or dead. They aren't going to let the starving hordes gather to turn back the genocidal greed with love.<br /><br />You have to learn the difference between what you are convinced you are doing, and what you are doing; between your convictions and their workability in the conditions. OR you can join Kevin Zeese's gravy train of nonprofits for "activists" [aka people whose conviction is, at bottom, making a living at activism theater], join in with other utterly pointless GREAT ideas about making changes inside a culture that won't even BE this culture over the long haul it would take to get there.<br /><br />You do NOT seem to get that America isn't America anymore, and it is on the cusp of not even SEEMING Americanish anymore. This NWO is about bringing back feudalism for real, AND YOU KNOW DAMN WELL PEOPLE'S STOMACHS WILL PREVENT THEM FROM FIGHTING IT.<br /><br />I don't think you know damn well that all this wonderful stuff you advocate will have no platform, no society in which to grow into what you seek. It might already be gone... but it CERTAINLY will be gone LONG before it can take hold.<br /><br />It's true that if EVERYBODY just ignores them, right now, stops paying taxes, stops submitting to their PATRIOT Act crap, mows down the TSA at airports, stops paying traffic fines, takes all their money out of banks, start importing doctors to and drugs, the works, that would set them back a looooong way, but not stop them. IF WE ABOLISH MONEY, THEY'RE FINISHED. But, Blue, all that has to happen IMMEDIATELY.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-55467143540140133152010-06-29T18:09:51.441-07:002010-06-29T18:09:51.441-07:0099
I'm what we call in the African community ...99<br /><br />I'm what we call in the African community an elder; which means I should be teaching. Your seeming maniacal focus on armed resistance and terming anything else as impotent and trivial does suggests myopia...at my age picking up a rifle and taking to the streets is screwball insanity, for one I know better than that now and secondly it's suicidal. <br /><br />I don't know or care about 'debating tricks' you need to knock off the ad hominem stuff (okay that trick I'm aware of).<br /><br />The glory and drama of armed struggle against unwinnable odds is Hollywood shit; this isn't 300...it's real life...real life where the conscious among us can effect real change. What you're speaking of isn't change at all...it's same old, same old human endeavor that's centuries old.<br /><br />At the risk of being numbingly repetitive...new ideas and new actions bring about new results. The old ways led us to this present moment.<br /><br />I'm done 99...we've danced around this maypole too long...I'm committed to my way and you yours...Blue!https://www.blogger.com/profile/05953752383431695433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-84126304557925007992010-06-29T17:57:02.142-07:002010-06-29T17:57:02.142-07:00I'm heavily in favor of taking care of each ot...I'm heavily in favor of taking care of each other, and we better be catching the ones dropping before they get cleared from the face of the earth. No way to starve the plutocrats unless people are willing to abandon their cars and homes and internet and cell phones and go out and make their own hunter/gatherer and farming communities... RIGHT NOW. Eight by ten color glossy of that action, oh yeah. I wish.<br /><br />And, I'm glad to learn you go out into the world and spread the world! That is WAY hip. But not very effective thus far, whot? I should better have put it that it AMOUNTS to fiddling while Rome burns... and especially now you've told me you actually get OUT there with this stuff. That is great.... just not enough to save the world from this.<br /><br />Yer a fine one to talk about keeping to ideas when you do shit like call me "myopic" and a worshipper at the alter of guns, etc. Are you using all these slogans in your talks?<br /><br />And where do I elevate "rifle ready cannon fodder"?<br /><br />Have you ever read Dōgen's <i>Do Not Do Anything Evil</i> essay? You can find it in <i>Rational Zen</i>, translated by Thomas Cleary. If you read this carefully enough, often enough, deeply enough, you come to realize the true meaning of the command:<br /><br /><i>Stop doing and perform!</i><br /><br />Blogging and speaking tours fall under the category of "doing"... at least except insofar as some illumination of fundamental reality or essential performance may be occurring. I don't flatter myself that my blogging is a drop in that ocean, but it's definitely half of one.<br /><br />And no. Not K. If you're going to continue to use all these low debate tricks on me—maybe on yourself too, and probably on your audiences as well— I'm not going to stop beating you over the head to try to crack open your skull. My only purpose here is that.<br /><br />The old Zen dudes called it lopping off the head, but I feel like calling it cracking open skulls in this instance.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-66422459966522899792010-06-29T17:28:45.888-07:002010-06-29T17:28:45.888-07:0099...this is where I spent last weekend.
http://i...99...this is where I spent last weekend.<br /><br />http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2010/06/29/declaration-from-the-us-social-forums-ecojustice-people%E2%80%99s-movement-assembly/<br /><br /><br />...I do presentations and workshops regularly exposing the thieving banking cartels and military industrial complex to people who otherwise wouldn't have been exposed to such information.<br /><br />I'm hardly fiddling 99...<br />Actually you know very little about me or what I'm doing...and I find it highly presumptuous of you to believe that unless one is rifle ready cannon fodder then it's meaningless.<br /><br />Seems you're the one stuck in a box 99...let's lay off the value judgements and talk ideas...<br /><br />K ?Blue!https://www.blogger.com/profile/05953752383431695433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-65822474558948844342010-06-29T17:01:44.402-07:002010-06-29T17:01:44.402-07:00I know you THINK you are advocating for peace and ...I know you THINK you are advocating for peace and love, but I'm telling you that you need to open yer mind wider to see REAL peace and love, or you are only fiddling while Rome burns.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-68875230758829869142010-06-29T16:59:13.781-07:002010-06-29T16:59:13.781-07:00You must have been making this comment while I was...You must have been making this comment while I was posting my last one.<br /><br />Do you realize how many platitudes you are using in your comments? How many prefab excuses?<br /><br />I don't think you realize that we can't get the system to its knees by starving them. They have starved us. They have control of every means we might have used to keep them from starving us. Even the wealthy can be immediately stripped to nothing and thrown out if they cross them. People are SO desperate for work, for any kind of paycheck, any way to keep themselves and their families happening, the NWO can work them like marionettes.<br /><br />If people don't stand up and fight, EVEN IF WE LOSE, there won't be any stopping these fucks for centuries, maybe millennia, maybe not until humans are extinct.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-73059777184090712352010-06-29T16:50:00.841-07:002010-06-29T16:50:00.841-07:0099
In a nutshell all I'm saying is why fight ...99<br /><br />In a nutshell all I'm saying is why fight a battle we can't win ? Isn't that insane ?<br /><br />Using a different mindset with a different focus maybe, just maybe we'll have a different outcome. Focus on each other...take care of each other and it matters not what plutocrats do. <br /><br />Disengage from the plutocrats by not needing what they offer and we'll begin to starve them. Plutocrats will transform out of need. How could that happen ?...well I read that only 11% need to disengage from the present system to bring it to it's knees...<br />But again I say...going out in a blaze of glory serves what purpose if it ultimately changes nothing ?<br />While confounding the present system with actions they're unprepared for or can't intellectually understand will be our strength...They think we need them, let's show them that we don't need them...that we're perfectly willing to care for and feed each other outside of their fascist system.<br /><br />11% is our critical mass...if 11% isn't enough then we'll go for 15%...then 20%. Whatever it takes to bring this system to it's knees. <br /><br />New thoughts open up new vistas...<br /><br />Grabbing a rifle and taking to the streets is so 20th century...Blue!https://www.blogger.com/profile/05953752383431695433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-56217581861776208622010-06-29T16:19:41.397-07:002010-06-29T16:19:41.397-07:00You are welcome here, always.
You do NOT seem to ...You are welcome here, always.<br /><br />You do NOT seem to be able to get to that higher thought level you keep mentioning. You do NOT seem to realize that I want what you want, that I want to make a world where this is not necessary. You do NOT seem to grok that you're just talking pie in the sky, UNLESS you mean you are fully willing to have most of the world population ground to pulp under the plutocratic boot heel while you are developing this mystical victory of love over fear and greed. And I keep TRYING to tell you that the fascists HAVE ALREADY CONQUERED OUR RESISTANCE WITHOUT FIGHTING! It's somewhere hereinabove. Which MEANS that OUR only choice is to massively overcome their supreme excellence.<br /><br />I'm well conversant with the Art of War... PRECISELY because I revile it and want it to stop forever. Why do you think I held out so long trying to turn the sick mentalities of so many putzes yonder?<br /><br />You don't seem to grok that I am radically well-versed in nonviolence and can tell at a glance when it is true nonviolence and when it is pusillanimity CALLING itself nonviolence. TRUE nonviolence does not avoid violence, and it does not sit back an pontificate about it while the planet burns down around its ears!<br /><br />IT IS FAR TOO LATE FOR YOUR COSMIC SHIFT IN HUMAN AFFAIRS! That takes many, many generations AND WE DON'T HAVE THEM!<br /><br />WE HAVE TO WORK WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT!<br /><br />Nobody wants instability and blood in the streets, but HOW MANY WILL RUE THE LACK OF THEM while being cut down by storm troopers for being homeless, or trying to escape a natural disaster, or TRYING TO EAT?<br /><br />WE ARE GOING INTO AGONIES THAT WILL MAKE THE GREAT DEPRESSION LOOK LIKE A PARTY.<br /><br />There isn't any doubt about that anymore. Everything I've been saying and linking should be telling you that.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-50139556497119926352010-06-29T15:53:25.450-07:002010-06-29T15:53:25.450-07:0099
Those heroes were great for their time. Malcol...99<br /><br />Those heroes were great for their time. Malcolm in 1962 was very different from Malcolm in 1965. Crazy Horse, Spotted Eagle, Sitting Bull etc. were great men ...but ultimately their efforts failed.<br /><br />I haven't read all of your replies yet, I'm sort of working from the bottom up. I need to say though that I'm speaking of a new paradigm...something that hasn't been tried before. Peace and Love as a tactic...and no I'm not talking about giving a plutocrat a hug. <br /><br />I'm speaking of melding with others of like mind, others pursuing peace and love and becoming an irresistible force a new thought force...There have never ever been times such as these for us, desperate times call for desperate measures, not measures that have been used for centuries. Violent struggle isn't the only way to true freedom and liberty...it's all I'm saying. You can give me hundreds of examples of violent struggle, but that doesn't mean that's what called for today.<br /><br />new thought=new results<br /><br />I enjoy reading your site 99...you put outstanding information out there. But our exchange here has done nothing but demonstrate to me that action with anger as it's basis is doomed to fail. We need well thought out, cool as the other side of the pillow, calculated ways to express peaceful revolution. There is more than one way to be in this world, more than one way to win. <br /><br />The violent struggles you references were dramatic and mythical...but guess what...they still led us to this present moment. Maybe a revolution of peace will make the present circumstances unthinkable for human beings ever again. It's about breaking our mental chains 99 as much as it's about breaking the physical chains. <br />I have seen the enemy and he is us...(Pogo comic strip circa mid-60s)<br /><br />Let's break the reciprocal nature of violent struggle...and start reciprocating some love...for ourselves and our enemies. <br /><br />Call me crazy if you want...but I'm that desperate to live another way. Sorry I won't be joining a rifle toting freedom movements, I won't because succeed or fail my son, nephews and those of my friends will have to do the same at some time or another. I'd rather leave a new of struggle...overcoming the inner fears and standing strong in peace and love.<br /><br />I'll be here as long as you will have me 99...and I'll be talking peace and love principles. I believe wholeheartedly in them...and soon when I'm stronger I will trust them implicitly.<br /><br />"To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."<br />-Sun Tzu, the Art of War<br /><br />Peace 99...and I mean that...Blue!https://www.blogger.com/profile/05953752383431695433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-91258698824604808472010-06-29T12:23:37.818-07:002010-06-29T12:23:37.818-07:00Nobody seems to GET why I keep posting images of h...Nobody seems to GET why I keep posting images of heroes.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.com