tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post1529787649792721567..comments2023-09-16T04:10:06.024-07:00Comments on n e u f n e u f: the grandmother of all coverups99http://www.blogger.com/profile/10615184682315410012noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-10746124266631828352010-07-03T22:40:57.152-07:002010-07-03T22:40:57.152-07:00So's Dave! So'm I!So's Dave! So'm I!wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-4122055762935253582010-07-03T22:33:40.669-07:002010-07-03T22:33:40.669-07:00Argh - I'm losing it....
LOLArgh - I'm losing it....<br /><br />LOLBluebear2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14951033337358355699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-10510379382748128112010-07-03T22:33:06.821-07:002010-07-03T22:33:06.821-07:00be blown back into space by the volcano and come b...<a href="be%20blown%20back%20into%20space%20by%20the%20volcano%20and%20come%20back%20down%20to%20hit%20us%20AGAIN!" rel="nofollow">be blown back into space by the volcano and come back down to hit us AGAIN!</a><br /><br />Brilliant!Bluebear2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14951033337358355699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-58911832383811443352010-07-03T22:29:36.319-07:002010-07-03T22:29:36.319-07:00He added that maybe it could hit Yellowstone, be b...He added that maybe it could hit Yellowstone, be blown back into space by the volcano and come back down to hit us AGAIN!<br /><br />Many of us are beginning to like the idea of a quick end over this long-aching agony, the suffering, the suffering, the suffering.... Could be old age, but, well, probably not.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-51028986027884137312010-07-03T22:26:35.167-07:002010-07-03T22:26:35.167-07:00HE JUST GOT DONE SAYING THAT TO ME ON THE PHONE A ...HE JUST GOT DONE SAYING <b>THAT</b> TO ME ON THE PHONE A FEW HOURS AGO! <br /><br />Yer on the same wavelength....wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-90610448361594470252010-07-03T22:09:29.273-07:002010-07-03T22:09:29.273-07:00Maybe the asteroid can hit Yellowstone!Maybe the asteroid can hit Yellowstone!Bluebear2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14951033337358355699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-65380198838209632952010-07-03T17:02:46.551-07:002010-07-03T17:02:46.551-07:00Well, I wonder if there've been more earthquak...Well, I wonder if there've been more earthquakes around Yellowstone since that time.... Old Uncle Dave is always, and has for long been, mentioning that he hopes it blows soon, when, that is, he isn't trying to invoke the asteroid....wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-88605448706842330932010-07-03T16:39:17.040-07:002010-07-03T16:39:17.040-07:00ALL they had was hope.
The large cap method has ...<i>ALL they had was hope. </i><br /><br />The large cap method has worked in shallow water with normal oil/methane mixtures - this was new territory all the way around.<br /><br />Hope indeed...Bluebear2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14951033337358355699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-90124593483084295342010-07-03T16:36:33.406-07:002010-07-03T16:36:33.406-07:00But then maybe it doesn't matter after all...But then maybe <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe6m3pUXKjQ" rel="nofollow">it doesn't matter</a> after all...Bluebear2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14951033337358355699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-30324569603377726252010-07-03T16:12:24.961-07:002010-07-03T16:12:24.961-07:00So, really, irrespective of their cutting mishap, ...So, really, irrespective of their cutting mishap, it was their failure to compensate enough for the cold that obviated getting a condom over the well head and BOP that would have prevented vastly more of this glop and gas from infecting our environment.<br /><br />I'm ASSUMING this means there was no way to compensate for it enough, that ALL they had was hope.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-44215458906040146592010-07-03T16:06:45.688-07:002010-07-03T16:06:45.688-07:00Lending to your confusion were the misleading head...Lending to your confusion were the misleading headlines and bylines.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/05/bp-on-containment-dome-it-has-failed.html" rel="nofollow">This article</a> begins <i>Hydrate build-up <b>stalled placement</b> of the containment dome over gushing oil.</i> which gives the impression it was never set in place. Yet further into the story we find <i>“What we had to do was pick the dome back up, set it over to the side while we evaluate what options we have to actually try to prevent the hydrate formation or find some other method to try to capture the flow,”</i><br /><br />The dome had in fact been placed. The hydrates formed after that both making the dome buoyant as well as clogging the outlet pipe.Bluebear2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14951033337358355699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-90315999990553591482010-07-03T15:59:08.486-07:002010-07-03T15:59:08.486-07:00Initially they tried to use a "Diamond Wire S...Initially they tried to use a "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weti7ZsLKpE" rel="nofollow">Diamond Wire Saw</a>" to cut the pipe off close to the flange on top of the BOP in order to apply the "top hat". This would have provided a smooth cut and round pipe onto which they could apply the cap. Rubber gaskets would make a good seal and vents in top of the cap would relief excess pressure until they could pump the oil as fast as it is coming out.<br /><br />As I understand it some of the well pipe had come up inside of the outer pipe and was binding the wire saw causing it to fail.<br /><br />They ended up bringing in the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj5fWnRc-_g" rel="nofollow">giant shears</a> to cut the pipe of at the top of the BOP. This crushed the pipe into an out-of-round condition causing the gaskets not to seal. (I couldn't find a video of that specific cut)<br /><br />Here they place the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2-tWa4BfJI" rel="nofollow">current cap</a> onto the riser pipe after it had been sheared. (I got to watch this live as it was happening. I was surprised how easily it went on. I expected the flow to blow it off.)Bluebear2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14951033337358355699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-16318612900899790462010-07-03T15:47:23.097-07:002010-07-03T15:47:23.097-07:00Okay. But my memory seems to be bucking about the...Okay. But my memory seems to be bucking about the freezing problem happening before it was all the way down... or there was an image of it part way down or up next to text talking about the failure, giving me the idea that the dome was never meant to fit down to the seafloor, just catch the stuff on its way up.<br /><br />I'm trying on the POV of BP being "innocent" and "open" in their "good faith" attempts to mitigate... but all I've managed so far is to assume the idea that there was no intent for this to happen, but no caution against it, and they got on it right away but nothing we have is a match for the pressure. Ever since about the time of the news report you linked, they've been shutting down the public, forcing down the blowout to whatever degree possible, and leaving those of us horrified who are not mollified.<br /><br />I wonder if I dare look around for the casualties yet........wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-7466615948700111992010-07-03T15:25:34.315-07:002010-07-03T15:25:34.315-07:00Here's the first dome - they put it on but it ...Here's the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWsSo0A3sfU" rel="nofollow">first dome</a> - they put it on but it stopped working soon afterward.<br /><br />The weight of it was to sink it into the sea floor mud up to the "fins" and capture all the oil from the leak at the kinked pipe above the BOP. The slot was to go over the pipe that was bent but still attached to the BOP. This would not be able to capture the oil coming from the end of the broken pipe, thus their estimate of 85% recovery.Bluebear2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14951033337358355699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-91921024825349833792010-07-03T10:58:39.548-07:002010-07-03T10:58:39.548-07:00I was not aware of that. All the graphics I saw h...I was not aware of that. All the graphics I saw had it considerably above the BOP... and if the new cap is somehow attached, but not sealed well, well, then that makes the ejecta on the streaming video EVEN scarier!<br /><br />I may have become MORE confused, I hope temporarily, than I was before.<br /><br />AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE <b>CRAP</b> THEY'VE PUT OUT FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION.<br /><br />Seriously, if we won't rise up to smack them down, could we at LEAST rise up to smack them around?wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-85145174910966152472010-07-03T10:48:54.342-07:002010-07-03T10:48:54.342-07:00Okay, BB2. This may have pushed me over the edge:
...<i>Okay, BB2. This may have pushed me over the edge:</i><br /><br />The first cap they lowered did that. It failed because of the 40% methane which, when its pressure dropped dramatically when it left the well head, flash froze the water into methane hydrate, clogging the recovery pipe. (There is even a chance that at such high pressure the methane may be arriving at the well head in liquid form and flashing off into a gas as it escapes - the thermal effects would be greatly increased in such a condition. That process is exactly how an air conditioner or refrigerator works. I have not had success yet finding the pressure/ temperature charts to confirm this. Nothing I've found addresses the high pressures of the reserve.)<br /><br />The current cap, by leaking out around the edges, does not allow the water in, thereby avoiding the problem. It was intended to have a better seal around the pipe stub, but they ended up shearing the pipe off instead of sawing it, thereby deforming it and not allowing a tight fit.Bluebear2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14951033337358355699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-48038898782981998132010-07-02T01:23:06.111-07:002010-07-02T01:23:06.111-07:00Made a new Jim Marrs playlist... if anyone is inte...<a href="http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=D8F3D49C947AD9A2" rel="nofollow">Made a new Jim Marrs playlist</a>... if anyone is interested. It probably won't stay up long. Neither will the remote viewer one linked in my last comment.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-59785161532650028372010-07-01T23:37:21.867-07:002010-07-01T23:37:21.867-07:00Oh, bless the buddhas of the ten directions. I fo...Oh, bless the buddhas of the ten directions. I found a new source for my space lizard studies. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Zeemonkey9#g/c/1F675FBCA5E4BB89" rel="nofollow">Here's a couple hours worth of remote viewing the Gulf Blowout and other apocalyptic stuff</a>. Here comes my PhD.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-15133129381999730342010-07-01T23:16:19.746-07:002010-07-01T23:16:19.746-07:00I just shot myself in the head again.I just shot myself in the head again.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-75164967012317773452010-07-01T22:57:11.248-07:002010-07-01T22:57:11.248-07:00"It is the last thing most of us expected to ..."It is the last thing most of us expected to hear: nearly every single worker from the Exxon Valdez oil spill Disaster is now dead, according to a CNN News report."<br />http://www.salem-news.com/articles/june302010/oil-lifespans.phpOld Uncle Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04229670145617547455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-85452809088168431472010-07-01T22:40:36.042-07:002010-07-01T22:40:36.042-07:00Okay, BB2. This may have pushed me over the edge:
...Okay, BB2. This may have pushed me over the edge:<br /><br /><i>18. Why did BP reject the use of large “suction pile over the BOP” at the outset which is a standard technology for anchoring deepwater systems and one could have been lowered over the entire BOP at the outset!? Ask the Dutch and any number of other manufactures. The current “containment cap” is nothing but a mini-version of a “suction pile” that does not go down to the seafloor and is too small in scale to collect all the oil.</i><br /><br />I have been wondering about this every other hour for two months... and have stifled myself because I had no clue if this existed or if there were some bad technical problem to prevent it or if the pressure is just too much.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-51348819572668388312010-07-01T21:01:54.730-07:002010-07-01T21:01:54.730-07:00I regret to inform you that not only did I have to...I regret to inform you that not only did I have to switch to my geek glasses for BB2's links, but they made my contacts pop out and I'm needing two pairs AND the handy "Readability" feature to wade through them. Dial 911.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-32741900892597749622010-07-01T20:56:21.517-07:002010-07-01T20:56:21.517-07:00HERE IS OLD UNCLE DAVE'S LINK....
Yes. Psych...<a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mccallister-to-testify-before-us-senate-regarding-oil-spill-red-tape-97419924.html" rel="nofollow">HERE IS OLD UNCLE DAVE'S LINK</a>....<br /><br />Yes. Psychopaths at least.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-13500465352650953682010-07-01T20:33:41.154-07:002010-07-01T20:33:41.154-07:00"We submitted proposals for oil skimming vess..."We submitted proposals for oil skimming vessels to BP on Monday June 14th – 25 million gallons of oil ago – and were promised they would be reviewed on an expedited basis. To date we have received no meaningful response," said McCallister.<br /><br />On June 22, McCallister gained assistance from Senator John Cornyn (R-TX) in requesting a waiver from the Jones Act, which prevents foreign-flagged vessels from cleaning the BP oil spill and protecting the U.S. coastline from the onslaught of oil. To date, neither Senator Cornyn's office nor Allegiance Capital has received a response regarding the waiver. McCallister's first request for a waiver was sent to Admiral Thad Allen on June 16.<br /><br />McCallister believes there may be an underlying issue affecting BP's resistance to bringing all available oil skimming equipment to the Gulf.<br /><br />"We believe BP has chosen to 'disperse and sink' the oil rather than to 'surface and collect' the oil," said McCallister. "Sinking and emulsifying the oil keeps the problem out of site and better serves BP's financial interest than does removing the oil from the water. This way BP can amortize the cost of the clean up over the next 15 years. Unfortunately this strategy exacerbates the significant cost to the Gulf of Mexico and the people and animals who live there." <br /><a rel="nofollow">link</a><br /><br />They're fucking psychopaths, I tell ya!Old Uncle Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04229670145617547455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33147437.post-90673247061944478852010-07-01T20:04:54.375-07:002010-07-01T20:04:54.375-07:00Oh, yes, I was on the Alex and Lindsey wave from t...Oh, yes, I was on the Alex and Lindsey wave from the git... I just didn't let any of the paranoiac parts fruffle my bustle. No flipped-out callers or forum tanglers have jogged me from my sense of what is musically-verifiable as likely to be real. It hit when there was a reconfirmation of the original depth reports, in conjunction with seeing the prevailing tides in the Gulf slamming the sludge into the Redneck Riviera and barely approaching ANYTHING like getting into the Gulf Stream even yet. The aromatic essence of rat started wafting through my humble abode while stolidly trying to endure the raving station breaks at four-something in the morning to catch what Hoagland had to add to our flimsy knowledge base.<br /><br />I know I've linked it before, but the second visual down on <a href="http://www.crownweather.com/?page_id=2242" rel="nofollow">this page</a> is incredibly helpful to me.wimpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00073194470627227599noreply@blogger.com