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Update: Substantive part of interview over, and now just linked behind her picture. When/if I can find a video or audio link or mp3 of it, I will link you to that.
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I have no clue if it will work, but at 11am Pacific Time, we're supposed to be able to see a live interview with Susan Lindauer about 9/11 and other interesting subjects on Republic Media TV.... I guess we're gonna see.
[It worked great.]
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3pm -- Okay, this is long, but he said they'd be reairing this directly, so if you're just showing up, you should be seeing Susan Lindauer testifying about foreknowledge of 9/11 and no WMD in Iraq and other positively outrageous bits of intelligence that absolutely never reached the American public. So you want to just sit there and watch. If it's archived, I will absolutely link it for you. She's on for about two hours, and then there's a long call in section that is pretty much not on topic you can miss.
So anyway there's someone yammering about Ron Paul at this very moment, but I think we can expect the Lindauer interview to come back on pretty soon.
If not, I'll rip out the player until we can get the real thing again.
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3:05pm -- It is now reairing. It starts with a bunch of bullshit technical problems, but be patient, she ends up getting on the air with him and it will knock your socks off.
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Here's Michael Collins' report on the matter.
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Bottom line, for those of you who miss this, she says the Arabs really hijacked the planes per plan on 9/11, and she, a longtime intelligence asset of ours, warned the administration darn explicitly about it in advance. And she says the Israelis just helped make it the glorious success that it turned out to be. She says the administration won't let us hear this because Israel is supposed to be our great friend and ally.
She says also that McVeigh and/or Nichols met with Arab terrorists in the Phillipines to plan the Oklahoma City bombing.
She first was gagged but left out on bail, but then was arrested and put in a military prison pending determination of her competency to stand trial, but the whole case was dropped just before Obama took office.
I'm interested in exploring with you guys about the possible veracity of this stuff. We know we already are very willing to believe this stuff, and so that means the government does also. This could be an elaborately planned limited hangout and it could be the whole truth. So I really hope everybody gets a chance to listen carefully to her, and will do everything I can to make sure you are able to if you are so inclined.
Personally, I don't believe any Arabs had anything to do with Oklahoma City, or, at least not wittingly, to do with 9/11. I can see very clearly how Larry Silverstein and the maniac Zionists out there would have had the power and interest -- the motives, means and opportunities -- to pull off 9/11, though. So I'm wondering if you think this could be a limited hangout to help get everybody back on board against the Arabs... even if it strengthens our suspicions about Israeli involvement... something it will take a metaphoric nuke to get any mainstream help with... but not at all on the Arab part.
And who is interested in helping run down some of the names she mentions? Anyone?
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For instance, why would this Richard Fuisz, her supposed CIA handler, insist that she call Ashcroft's office to get this alert out? Why have someone who has to prove she's on the up and up call when he could call and there would be no question? Is this about that separation of agencies bit? Is that weird?
[Seems that at one time Fuisz was a NOC -- which NOC status would stop him calling the DoJ -- but certainly by the time he's Lindauer's handler he can't still be undercover, can he? And if so, can he still be if she's talking about him now? And as long as his cover is blown, where's his corroboration for this?]
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Trying to take her opinions and intelligence bits at face value, I'm still certain that there had to be government, or at least military, involvement, because one of the planes disappeared altogether and another one, 93, was shot down. A hijacked airliner absolutely did not hit the Pentagon. It was a fucking missile, maybe in drag as a small plane, but it absolutely was not a 757. So, we can look to the double-citizenship, and rabid Zionist, high ranking officials in the Pentagon and in Congress and in business and in the military, but our government/military/power-brokers had to be involved.
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Why was she left out in circulation until September 2005 if they were so determined to shut her up about their foreknowledge of 9/11 and the Israeli involvement? Did they trust that she couldn't get the information out until she got a court date, and when they couldn't put her off anymore decide to arrest her for purposes of "determining her competence for trial"? And then drag that out against all reason and numerous laws until 15 January 2009? This could be about the size of it, but, so, well, what's preventing her from getting in front of a congressional panel right now?
...instead of, or in addition to, this glitch-filled bit of independent media?
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Big Dan's OKC link that won't work in the comments section... konsarn kommenting kaos.
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And, Prav... uh, I mean, the AP, had this to say about her recent release... totally slimed her... reason to believe her more? Or what?
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Update: 26 January: Here's a snippet related to the missile that hit the Pentagon that Plunger mentioned at Big Dan's, which I think helps cast some light on this story:
2001-09-11 Stanley Hall Raytheon Director of Electronic warfare program management. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 77, the one that supposedly hit the Pentagon but did not.
2001-09-11 Peter Gay Raytheon VP of Electronic Systems on special assignment at the El Segundo, CA division office where the Global Hawk UAV remote control system is made. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.
2001-09-11 Kenneth Waldie Raytheon Senior Quality Control for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.
2001-09-11 David Kovalcin Raytheon Senior Mechanical Engineer for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.
2001-09-11 Herbert Homer Raytheon Corporate Executive working with the Department of Defense. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on United airlines Flight 175, the one that supposedly hit the South World Trade Tower II.
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Many were surprised when they learned that Raytheon executives and experts perished (or were disappeared) on 9-11 but we were not for one reason. We received a tip that an A-3 Skywarrior had been outfitted to operate as an UAV by Raytheon and it may well have been the plane used to attack the Pentagon. That hole through the Pentagon is a unique signature and not one made by an airplane. That 16 foot tunnel through three rings of the Pentagon is only made by a directional blast weapon. Rumsfeld has even slipped up and mentioned the missile that hit the Pentagon.
Some have seen the Pentagon parking lot camera video and the white trail of smoke. Jets do now leave white trails of smoke at sea level, but Thiokol powered AGMs do, at all attitudes.
The Boeing 757 commercial airliner is not equipped for mounting or launching of an AGM, but the A-3 Skywarrior is and that is exactly one of the reasons the planes are still in use.
I'm not happy with the wording in the first part about the Raytheon guys, but this is the gist.
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Oh, crap, you know what? The damn wording tripped me up and got me backasswards about the A-3 and the AGM bit again. This has happened to me a couple times in the great debates about what hit the Pentagon.
A GODDAM MISSILE HIT THE PENTAGON!
I have allowed as how the missile might have been in drag, made to look more like a plane, but that's as far as she goes.
I was in front of the tv when they showed the first shots. It was a missile. No airplane, and outright no way the hole was made by an airplane. Immediately apparent. Plus, I have researched this long and hard. So I'm all worked up again because there was no mention of this from Lindauer, just insisting that Arabs hijacked the four planes and the Israelis helped make it more spectacular, and this missile into the Pentagon bears on her story in that it tends to make it less credible, and here I go getting upside down on the A-3/AGM thing again. Heavy sigh. Oh. Well.
I'm just going to give that entire blockquote again, only this time with me rewording it for clarity and correcting typos, and see if we like the picture that emerges just a little better:
2001-09-11 -- Stanley Hall, Raytheon Director of Electronic Warfare Program Management. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon with an air to ground missile [AGM], where the official story claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 77, the one that allegedly hit the Pentagon but did not.
2001-09-11 -- Peter Gay, Raytheon VP of Electronic Systems on special assignment at the El Segundo, CA division office where the Global Hawk UAV [unmanned aerial vehicle] remote control system is made. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon with an AGM, where the official story claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that allegedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.
2001-09-11 -- Kenneth Waldie, Raytheon Senior Quality Control for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon with an AGM, where the official story claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that allegedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.
2001-09-11 -- David Kovalcin, Raytheon Senior Mechanical Engineer for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon with an AGM, where the official story claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that allegedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.
2001-09-11 -- Herbert Homer, Raytheon Corporate Executive working with the Department of Defense. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon with an AGM, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on United airlines Flight 175, the one that allegedly hit the South World Trade Tower II.
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Many were surprised when they learned that Raytheon executives and experts perished (or were disappeared) on 9-11 but we were not for one reason. We received a tip that an A-3 Skywarrior had been outfitted to operate as an UAV by Raytheon and it may well have been the plane used to attack the Pentagon. That hole through the Pentagon is a unique signature and not one made by an airplane. That 16 foot tunnel through three rings of the Pentagon is only made by a directional blast weapon. Rumsfeld has even slipped up and mentioned the missile that hit the Pentagon.
Some have seen the Pentagon parking lot camera video and the white trail of smoke. Jets do not leave white trails of smoke at sea level, but Thiokol powered AGMs do, at all altitudes.
The Boeing 757 commercial airliner is not equipped for mounting or launching an AGM, but the A-3 Skywarrior is and that is exactly one of the reasons the planes are still in use.
You can see from the second part of the snippet what "the A-3 that hit the Pentagon" part in the first meant to say, did say, but not in lingo laypersons quibbling over what kind of projectile actually hit the building could readily understand. So, we're all clear, again, now, right?
And so now, it still could be she is right about Arabs hijacking the four planes and the Israelis took out the plane bound for the Pentagon, but, well, I doubt it. With so much work for a controlled demolition of the WTC and so much work for such a precise strike on the Pentagon, why leave it to a bunch of Arabs to maybe mess up your plans somehow?
The part about the A-3 Skywarrior is right on the money. The part about Arabs hijacking anything on 9/11 is false. Nobody hijacked anything that morning. If you look closely at the more clear, less grainy photos of the plane that hit the South Tower you will see two white antennae on its underside, about evenly spaced, one about 1/3 the distance from the nose and the other about 1/3 the distance from the tail, sticking straight down. These are not a standard feature but had to have been added. They are for remote control of the aircraft.
ReplyDeleteThere is even an airborne platform for remote control of drones (and remote control aircraft acting as drones), a variant of the C-130 Hercules called the DC-130, "DC" for "drone control", and the ones controlling the aircraft that hit the Towers, Pentagon and Shanksville were almost certainly controlled from on board one or two of these DC-130s. In fact a Hercules of some description was seen overflying the Pentagon IMMEDIATELY after the crash.
Most probable scenario: Some of those "hijackers" were here thinking they were participating in counter terrorism drills. They ended up as patsies. I have never seen images of the planes going into the towers that would indicate they were not remote controlled regular airliners with the passengers onboard as advertised, if not the number of "hijackers". Why bother replacing them with something else when they were perfectly usable as they were?
ReplyDeleteThe remote piloted A-3 was retrofitted to be able to fly low over the city, shoot a bunker buster into the Pentagon and disappear over it and off into the wild blue yonder without anyone who could see the impact zone realizing the plane had flown on. NO PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON. Not even an A-3.
The military shot down the plane over Shanksville.
No reason any elected officials needed to be in on it at all, but maybe Fudd was... depending on if the kid was referring to the plane being X miles out was about the Pentagon or about the Shanksville flight. If it was the Pentagon, then he was in it. If it was Shanksville, it was about the order to shoot it down.
The REAL government doesn't need to use actual elected officials for this stuff. No question Silverstein was in on it. None. No question it was an inside job, but that does NOT answer WHO and everyone who can give some evidence that might lead to WHO gets dead pretty quickly.
ANYWAY THIS THREAD IS REALLY, REALLY OLD, AND ALL THE COMMENTS ON IT THAT WORKED IT OUT WERE WIPED WHEN I SWITCHED FROM HALOSCAN TO REGULAR BLOGGER COMMENTS. SO FEW ARE GOING TO SEE YOUR COMMENTS HERE.
ReplyDeleteI don't know that any of the alleged hijackers were on board and I don't know that what hit the South Tower was Flight 175. Definitely on a Boeing 767 airframe (it had to be-- the South Tower crash was the only one that we were meant to see.) The airline's ground mechanics would notice the remote control antennae on a civilian Boeing 767 so I doubt it was UA 175 that struck the South Tower. Probably a military plane on a -767 airframe painted up in United Airlines livery.
ReplyDeleteI don't buy the four alleged flight manifests for a minute, when planes that can hold between 180 to 220 passengers depending on configuration and they are claiming none of them were at even 50% capacity, one even having literally 45 passengers? That's as fake as can be. More likely is that there were at the most two real airliners whose flight manifests were each split in half to make "four".
N.O.R.A.D. maybe contacts the pilot(s) of the real airliner(s) and says "Hey there's a suspected terrorist threat to several airports but we aren't sure which yet... We've got it narrowed down to several and we know it's got something to do with transponders so we need you to turn your transponder off and divert to a holding pattern just out over the Atlantic until we notify you as to where it's safe to land." So the pilots do as they're told, turn their transponders off and fly a racetrack pattern off the coast; meanwhile it's been proven that the Navy was also having an exercise that morning in the north Atlantic. It may well have sounded something like this:
Tomcat pilot to the FDO on his carrier: "I've got two bogeys (unidentified aircraft) on my radar."
FDO: "Roger that, those are two drones simulating hijacked airliners, they're part of the exercise and you are cleared to shoot them down."
Tomcat pilot: "Roger, splash two bandits."
Meanwhile the South Tower's Boeing 767 and the A-3 Skywarriors are flown by remote control to their targets; the fourth and final one, intended as insurance in case one of the other three misses its target, was unneeded so it was detonated/shot down over Shanksville.
I don't know if any "hijackers" were aboard either. I'm saying that for sure many of them were NOT, but if the others were, they thought they were acting... and that accounts better for any possible veracity to the likely bogus calls from the Shanksville flight.
ReplyDeleteThey CANNOT have split up the passengers without families and friends coming out to call bullshit. So if they did not use the flights themselves, which is only certain in ONE case, they just offed everyone on all the flights and replaced them with other planes.
It isn't at all likely that a ground crew would spot these antennae, IF they were even attached, which is ALSO not at all necessary to remotely fly those aircraft.
I want to get OFF this subject just now. World War Three seems a little more vital to me at the moment, and if you are interested in heading it off, I suggest you put aside the 9/11 stuff for now. UNFORTUNATELY, it will goddam KEEP until whatever date in the future it could be a priority again, but WWIII.... not so much.
Most likely the "hijacker" patsies were utterly convinced that they were undertaking rudimentary flight training in small propellor planes in Florida in order to become C.I.A. drug smuggling pilots flying cocaine into Florida.
ReplyDeleteThe several that turned up alive and well days later most likely are completely uninvolved in anything and are simply victims of identity theft, having their passports stolen when they traveled abroad and their identities used to pad out the list of "hijackers".
As for the antennae they are pretty visible in photographs and would be easily seen by ground crewmen at the airport. As for splitting the manifests that's the only option that makes sense. Sorry but an airline isn't going to fly a Boeing 757 with 45 passengers and 135 empty seats across the country. The manifests are transparently bogus. And bear in mind that the largest concentration of 9/11 families who didn't accept the government's hush money were families of victims on the alleged airliners. The only one that anybody can see clearly impacting is the South Tower crash. With those manifests and with the evidence at the Pentagon and Shanksville showing plainly that no airliner crashed at either location it is awful hard to believe that four actual airliners were involved. Certainly nothing was hijacked that morning and just as certainly the fake "hijacker pilots" 1.were about as devoted to Islam as Woody Allen; and 2.couldn't fly even small propellor planes worth a damn; so it's pretty apparent that they didn't hijack anything and fly it into a building.
P.S.-- If we unravel the 9/11 story it will completely smash the warmongers' entire worldview. The ruling elite isn't stupid; the U.S. doesn't have the military to wage a WWIII or even a real war against a country that can actually fight back. It's getting its ass handed to it by guys with small arms and homemade bombs in Afghanistan. If it tries anything with Iran it knows the Iranians will kick the shit out of the U.S. 5th Fleet with anti-ship cruise missiles, sink the carriers and drown thousands of sailors before dinnertime and mine the Strait of Hormuz. If American minesweepers try to clear a passage they'll be sunk with more anti-ship cruise missiles.
Meanwhile the Iranians would have their proxies in Iraq turn up the heat on the remaining occupation forces and besiege them in their firebases. The ones making the decisions surely know that if they screw with Iran then they will get the embarrassment of a lifetime and will get the U.S. permanently kicked out of the Middle East. They're sabre rattling trying to get Iran to bend to their will on their nuclear energy program but don't have the military power to back it up.
Head in bucket of ice water, dude, icewater. Look up. Look around. We are in trouble.
ReplyDeleteIf we unravel the 9/11 story it will completely smash the warmongers' entire worldview.
ReplyDeleteCan't be done, and no it won't.
Look around. No shit.
All that was once viable. Since Obama came down so hard against it, not even a shred of a chance left... or WHATEVER chance there would be would be AFTER toppling the fuckers who did it to begin with.
I hate to say this, worse than most anyone, but 9/11 is ONLY a useless obsession at this point in time.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE GET WITH PEOPLE FACE TO FACE. WE HAVE TO UNITE AS A WHOLE COUNTRY TO STOP THESE FUCKERS.
I'm telling you the truth.
You KNOW it.
I'll put it this way: If the ruling elite wants to make the biggest mistake it's ever made and ensure that the U.S. is 1.universally reviled even moreso than it already is; 2.embarrassed as the great big pussy that threatens smaller countries then gets its ass kicked by one; 3.responsible for probably causing its Zionist turd apartheid state to get stomped, potentially fatally, and 4.(the U.S.) kicked out of the Middle East permanently including its oil companies losing access to what will be the center of gravity of the 21st Century world's oil production, Iraq, then it will fuck with Iran. If this is not exactly a secret to me then it certainly isn't to the ruling elite and its intelligence agencies and military brass.
ReplyDeletePeople were screaming five years ago that Bush was all set to invade Iran. I said the same thing I am saying now, it's sabre rattling. The U.S. ruling elite knows it is right now completely overextended and in danger of losing in Afghanistan. The last thing it would want to do is ACTUALLY attack Iran.
And there should never have been any realistic hope for Obama coming out for the truth about 9/11. He's a marionette of the billionaires that own this country, not some genuine leftist who betrayed the left. His purpose is the same as it has been, to take the real desire for meaningful change felt by tens of millions of Amerians and channel it into an alley that is nice and safe for the wealthy elite. Continuity, not change. It's like a third Cheney term. Obama's a puppet, the one before him was, the one before that etc. American politics is a dog & pony show meant to make the masses feel like they actually have a choice at the ballot box and a say in what governs them. They manifestly do not, as the choices are controlled.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, if the truth about 9/11 was common knowledge then the entire warmongering right-wing worldview would collapse around itself because America's entire foreign policy as well as all of the domestic repression/mainstreaming of police state measures undertaken SINCE 9/11 has used 9/11 as the excuse for it. Shatter that myth and you cut the legs out from under all of it.
I do so hope you are right, and I have agreed that it has been saber rattling all this time, but I no longer feel they will have any compunction about committing suicide... because the people who COUNT won't be suicided by it. THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT US.
ReplyDeleteThey're using "1984" for their handbook. There's already indications they intend to prevent the closure of the Strait of Hormuz... though I don't know how they think they can pull that off for real... AND there are other ways to start WWIII than attack Iran.
THEY DO NOT INTEND TO LET THE DOLLAR TANK AND SHRINK THAT WHOLE EMPIRE TO BUBKES WITHOUT A FIGHT AND THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO ALTERNATIVE FOR THEM.
They aren't ever getting kicked out of the ME, unless WE do it.
The U.S. is overstretched already, dying of indigestion in Afghanistan and only able to maintain a facade of half-normalcy in Iraq by literally paying people to not kill them. It would be a blunder of biblical proportions for the U.S. to undertake opening a third theatre of operations, especially one that would be far more dangerous than Iraq and Afghanistan put together. Iran has oodles of anti-shipping missile launcher vehicles in the mountains along its littoral and plenty of mines and minelayers. Those carriers would be sitting ducks in the Persian Gulf and wouldn't make it halfway back to the Strait, which would be mined and its approaches covered by the cruise missile launchers. They might intend all they want but they won't be able to prevent the Strait from being closed. Not only will their fleet in the Gulf be trapped but the tanker traffic will be halted. As it is right now the world's oil production is just barely able to keep even with demand but over the last several years the world's swing production capacity has eroded severely. If the Gulf is closed off oil prices would go through the roof, good news in the short term for oil companies but bad news for the American economy which would grind to a halt with $15/gallon gas and diesel or worse. It would cripple the U.S. economy.
ReplyDeleteSo, yeah, if the banksters that run the U.S. want to make sure they croak the American economy then they will invade Iran. If they want to continue for however much longer feeding off of the American working class like parasites and keep the U.S. kleptocracy gig going for another generation or more then this is just sabre rattling.
marionette of the billionaires that own this country
ReplyDeleteRIGHT! As is every last person who might do this mystical getting the truth out to the warmongers in the populace.
THERE'S NO ONE TO INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE.
EVEN if we could get another "investigation" NO ONE will prosecute it. It will be deep-sixed just like the last. YOU HAVE MADE YOUR OWN ARGUMENT AGAINST YOUR PREMISE.
There was reason to hope Obama would come through, but ONLY because there was still room for doubt. He removed that doubt the day after he took office. HE WON'T PROSECUTE WAR CRIMES. He won't even prosecute some lackeys for the torture. HE'S CONTINUING THE TORTURE AND WAR CRIMES. He does EVERYTHING he's told.
AND NO ONE DOES ANYTHING REMOTELY LIKE EXPOSE THE TRUTH OF 9/11. They'd be suicided for even starting to suggest they meant to do it.
SERIOUSLY. SERIOUSLY. Those people you hope to turn against the POB with the truth will NEVER get the kind of confirmation of it through any means that COUNTS.
You've carefully explained WHY.
LOOK AT YOUR OWN ARGUMENT.
I don't think you have any idea what a hassle it is for me to hold this conversation with you on such an ancient thread.
ReplyDeleteIt does NOT matter that we are overstretched already. The trillionaires will start WWIII if it serves them to do so, and it serves them. It may ruin millions of people. It may ruin the United States. That's FINE with them.
IT DOES NOT RUIN THEIR GRASP OF THE REINS OF POWER.
Please just stop arguing about this here. It's a big old pain in the ass and not productive even if it were up on the front page where it isn't this kind of a hassle.
I never said that there was any hope for changing things WITHIN the existing framework; the whole system is fake. I'm saying that if the truth about 9/11 was common knowledge then the elite wouldn't be able to use it to frighten the masses of idiots into thinking that the world is going to end tomorrow, brought to you by "Al Qaeda", if we don't do ____. Everything that the elite uses as an excuse would come crashing down. They would know that it no longer has any currency with the people. It would thoroughly discredit both hardly-dissimilar parties. Yes, obviously, the entire system including the Dennis Kuciniches of it, is fake as Pamela Anderson's tits. I know this, and I'm not suggesting change is possible by working WITHIN it. The whole ediface needs to be torn down and we start over, nothing short of that will effect real, meaningful change in the U.S. This can be done only outside the system, in a two-stage process:
ReplyDelete1.widespread political education to inform the masses as to how badly they're being screwed in the capitalist economic model and how they can make their own lives so much better by replacing this model with proletarian socialism;
2.turning this widespread recognition into a movement to use well-organized civil disobedience to shut this country down and keep it shut down until we have real, irreversible social change. Starting with new elections with all private money banned from the process, abolishing the Electoral College and abolishing the Senate (with all its duties transferred to the House.) In other words to wrest control of this country from the elite, like the Bolivians did in their country.
But no, surely you must know that I'm not naive enough to think that the truth about 9/11 could be exposed by people working within the framework of the current system. They know which side their bread is buttered on. But even without an immediate organized movement the common knowledge of it would be enough to prevent it from being used as a pretext from now until the end of time. Including if they ever DID attack Iran you can bet it would be somehow falsely tied into the "War on Terror" which is obviously a series of wars for energy resource dominance. But the U.S. isn't going to attack Iran, it's just making noise. And besides, you have a whole blog here. What would be wrong with continuing to spread the word about 9/11 in addition to hyperventilating about the U.S. ruling elite making the absolute worst possible decision it could ever make and starting WWIII which it patently is not going to do?
So you're going down into a black hole of what-ifs.
ReplyDeleteThere isn't any way to get it done that is outside the system.
The only way to get it done is to bring down the guys who did it, who are running everything right now, and the only way to bring them down is to get everyone to rise against them. There are PLENTY of viable, right here and now, EMERGENCIES upon which to gather consensus with people on all sides of the political spectrum.
They will do WWIII to prevent our rising up. They will do it to prevent their dollars from being useless. They will do it PURELY because it makes them all the money in the whole world and keeps us down.
The ONLY thing they fear is being forced out of control by the overwhelming masses, and THAT is the only way to stop them.
I know for a fact the people you wish to convert by the Truth are more susceptible to being converted by your outstretched hand in brotherhood than any political or 9/11 arguments.
There is NO other option open to beat them than to unite in our masses to stop them. They WILL slaughter us and enslave us short of that. They're already doing it just fine. They're happy as clams.
I'm not going to approve anymore comments from you on this thread.
ReplyDeleteIT IS A MONSTER HASSLE AND IT'S RUINING MY EVENING.
If you have more to say, take it to the front page.
We could not afford WWII any better than we can afford WWIII.
ReplyDeleteYou seem to have forgotten about the nuke/s that went missing with that B-52 flyover from Minot to Barksdale a few years ago. I think it was ONLY our vigilance against Fudd using them in another drill, like on Portland, that kept us from false-flagging our way into attacking Iran. They'll find a way to make everyone go for it. Don't you even begin to doubt it.
They can conscript at will. EVEN if they don't start up the draft again, they can get PLENTY of WILLING bodies from Third World countries AND from private contractors. The people who PROFIT from this shit don't give a rat's ass if we're bankrupt or not.
The ONLY way is to take away their power NOW.
That happens person-to-person IN PERSON. Not on the tubes.
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And, finally, I DO CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD. Just not with any regularity. I support Gage because the poor slob lost his marriage in his determination. I just don't have ANY illusions about it and there IS a hell of a lot of stuff that, for the moment, is RADICALLY more important.
ReplyDeleteThe source of ALL this is the same. They MUST be stopped, and the energy has to flow to what is going to WORK... right away... right away... right away... AND THAT TAKES PLACE IN THE ANALOG WORLD. Everything else is controlled by the bad guys. EVEN THE INTERNET.
Since you probably have gone to bed, here is a good good argument against me... I do NOT, however, find it persuasive enough. They have NOT mentioned Israel's determination to cut OFF any support for Hezbollah and Hamas from Iran. They have NOT mentioned the INTENSE pressure coming from our failed "recovery" that Tarpley mentioned a few days ago. There a shitload of indications that we plan to blow the Middle East sky high. Links after links after links floating around out there.
ReplyDeleteIt isn't about Iran nukes. That's ONLY an excuse to keep the pressure up, their Public Enemy Number One status alive.
ANYWAY, if yer not done griping about me and 9/11, please, move it to the front page. The ideal post for it is right there.