I was torn between whining about you not listening to me when I was begging you to move, and crying because your house has to have taken that huge a hit in this mess. So I sort of did both and neither.
I was trying to tell you that ceasing to pay for all that, getting unstuck with cash from your house, might actually have made life easier. But I never accept children and spouses and relatives as excuses, so you can consider the source....
Bluebear2 - same situation here. 15 year fixed mortgage almost done.
The reality is housing prices must come down. (I don't like it either) It's mathematics, and although the fed the treasury and every bank may be able to HIDE their numbers now, they can't forever, and eventually prime delinquency is going to fucking pop.
(Taken from Karl Denninger) There has been zero push for accountability and truth throughout the system. Not among our so-called "leaders", not among the bankers, not among the political or economic elite. All are focused on trying to keep the impossible going.
The truth of all of this is trivially easy for you to demonstrate to yourself. Just ask the following questions:
* If you have $100,000 and borrow another $100,000, have you doubled your net worth, or have you actually harmed your economic position, as you will not only have to pay back the $100,000 you borrowed but also interest on that money? * If you do not own a home, do you want that house to be priced high or low? * If you want to buy a car, do you want the price on the car to be $20,000 or $40,000? * If you're buying gasoline do you want it to cost $2 or $5 a gallon? * Are you better off with zero credit card debt, $2,000 in credit card debt or $20,000 in credit card debt? * How did we actually nominate a man for President of the United States (he lost by the way) who declared publicly that he had one half million dollars in credit card debt and couldn't tell a reporter how many houses he owned? * How did we have a bill, the EESA/TARP that obligated citizens to pay $700 billion in taxes that we do not have (that is, to put us all in debt by another $700 billion), that was opposed from 100:1 to 300:1 in calls, faxes and letters to Congress, was passed over those objections with an election less than a month away, and we the people then returned 90% of those who voted "Yes" and stood for re-election to office?
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We're all fucked. I'm fucked. You're fucked. The whole department is fucked. It's the biggest cock-up ever. We're all completely fucked. —not uttered by anyone in charge lately
Anyone calling Obama a leftist, liberal, or progressive needs to have the stupid beat out of them. —Old Uncle Dave
As for the Taliban ... their stated grievance is the same as Gen. Washington’s in our war with the British: If you want this war to end, get out of our country. —Pat Buchanan
Obama-era drone warfare ... in general looks like Bush-era drone warfare on steroids. —Scott Horton
There has to be altruism in the universe. —Frank Drake
The morons in Washington are pushing the envelope of nuclear war. The insane drive for American hegemony threatens life on earth. The American people, by accepting the lies and deceptions of “their” government, are facilitating this outcome. —Paul Craig Roberts
I am a child of the South. Janet Napolitano tells me I need to be afraid of people who are labeled white supremacists but I was raised around white supremacists. I am not afraid of white supremacists. I am concerned about my own government. The Patriot Act did not come from the white supremacists, it came from the White House and Congress. Citizens United did not come from white supremacists, it came from the Supreme Court. —Cynthia McKinney
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...the government only starts listening to its voters once the more corrupt option turns out to be untenable. —Matt Taibbi
· One out of seven American homeowners will probably lose their homes by the end of 2010.
· Only 4.7 percent of distressed homeowners who enrolled in the modification plan have gotten any help.
· Out of Obama's $75 billion program, only $2.3 million has been spent—or 0.03 percent.
Obama's performance on the foreclosure crisis—along with unemployment, the biggest problem America faces—makes Bush's laissez faire approach to Hurricane Katrina look caring and loving in comparison. If ever there were a cause for impeachment, look no further. —Ted Rall
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Kool-Aid Pie
* 1 14-ounce can sweetened condensed milk * 1 envelope Kool-Aid (any flavor) * 1 small tub Cool Whip, thawed
Mix ingredients until thoroughly combined. Pour into ready-made graham cracker pie crust and refrigerate at least one hour before serving.
Those attempting to sell houses, or any other products, would watch helplessly as the value of what they own evaporated.
ReplyDeleteHomes in my neighborhood - "Fixer-uppers" that were going for $150,000+ two years ago are now in the $25,000 range - cheaper than a new car!
My house which would have brought over $200,000 then is probably now worth less than $60,000. Not much more than I bought it for in '87.
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I was torn between whining about you not listening to me when I was begging you to move, and crying because your house has to have taken that huge a hit in this mess. So I sort of did both and neither.
ReplyDeleteOh I was listening, but when the mortgage is almost paid off and two kid$ in high $chool, living paycheck to paycheck, one gets rather stuck.
ReplyDeleteI was trying to tell you that ceasing to pay for all that, getting unstuck with cash from your house, might actually have made life easier. But I never accept children and spouses and relatives as excuses, so you can consider the source....
ReplyDelete:-P
Bluebear2 - same situation here. 15 year fixed mortgage almost done.
ReplyDeleteThe reality is housing prices must come down.
(I don't like it either) It's mathematics, and although the fed the treasury and every bank may be able to HIDE their numbers now, they can't forever, and eventually prime delinquency is going to fucking pop.
(Taken from Karl Denninger)
There has been zero push for accountability and truth throughout the system. Not among our so-called "leaders", not among the bankers, not among the political or economic elite. All are focused on trying to keep the impossible going.
The truth of all of this is trivially easy for you to demonstrate to yourself. Just ask the following questions:
* If you have $100,000 and borrow another $100,000, have you doubled your net worth, or have you actually harmed your economic position, as you will not only have to pay back the $100,000 you borrowed but also interest on that money?
* If you do not own a home, do you want that house to be priced high or low?
* If you want to buy a car, do you want the price on the car to be $20,000 or $40,000?
* If you're buying gasoline do you want it to cost $2 or $5 a gallon?
* Are you better off with zero credit card debt, $2,000 in credit card debt or $20,000 in credit card debt?
* How did we actually nominate a man for President of the United States (he lost by the way) who declared publicly that he had one half million dollars in credit card debt and couldn't tell a reporter how many houses he owned?
* How did we have a bill, the EESA/TARP that obligated citizens to pay $700 billion in taxes that we do not have (that is, to put us all in debt by another $700 billion), that was opposed from 100:1 to 300:1 in calls, faxes and letters to Congress, was passed over those objections with an election less than a month away, and we the people then returned 90% of those who voted "Yes" and stood for re-election to office?
~phil
oh my the bad air
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