12 March 2011

solar flares causing quakes and moon exacerbating tsunamis

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And Sirius has made the governments insane. Anyway, I guess George just got quickly on anybody remotely earthquakey to show up on the moment. I'm sure there will be more, and more fantastic soon.

The thing that has been gnawing at me is: Has anybody ever heard of a whirlpool tsunami before? I have never heard of that, and I haven't heard of tsunami swells that don't look any worse than a bad winter storm doing what we saw them do to the local harbor yesterday. I didn't see the tide suddenly going way out as the herald of the incoming tsunami, and this just has not been acting right.

For those who wondered how James Corbett fared in the quake, he is fine. For those worried about the nukes plants in Japan, this seems to be the latest:
Humans can withstand a certain amount of radioactive vapor without any problems.

Map: Color-coded radiation data in Japan

"When you have that vapor released from the site it automatically goes into the atmosphere and spreads out so it's not a significant amount and it's not a concentrated amount," said J. Scott Peterson with the Nuclear Energy Institute.

Still, when radiation levels inside the plan surged to 1,000 times the normal level, the evacuation area was expanded from a 2-mile radius to a 6-mile radius.

Japan's 55 nuclear reactors provide about a third of the nation's power — 11 of them were in the earthquake zone.

"The fact is a dozen of these reactors have shut down and have done what they were designed go do," said Richard Lester, with MIT.

Later, news came that the cooling system has failed at a second nuclear plant. Generators are now being trucked in. Getting a consistent source of power at both plants is going to be key to preventing a meltdown.
I'm thinking today that we must just not have gotten the first surge on tape here yesterday. I think it hit about 6:30am and done the real damage. It's still pretty dark then, so that might be why we don't have any video that looks any worse than an average winter storm.

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Further evidence these huge quakes may be manmade is that this one shifted the earth's axis by four inches. I mean, there's been all kine hullaballoo about pole shifts and climate hassles, and moving the axis would address those....

OR Gaia has just HAD it with us... which is the most likely of all....

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26 comments:

  1. What I assume to be a reactor vessel has exploded at the power plant in Japan.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/12/watch-japanese-power-plant-explosion/

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  2. Tsunami is not one big wave - it is a series of waves appearing as complex currents and changes in sea level. The one that hit CC last year after the Chilean quake was similar, but a bit smaller.

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  3. The topography of the adjacent ocean floor makes Crescent City particularly vulnerable to tsunami waves.

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  4. From this video I would suspect the whirlpool is caused by the shape of the breakwaters and the current of the incoming surge.

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  5. Right. I think the explosion is covered at one or the other of my links. It wasn't a reactor. But it did raise radiation levels at the plant. People have been evacuated and "given iodine"... but, and they could well be covering it up, it doesn't seem to have utterly melted down. The generators being brought in are supposed to fix the problem.

    I do KNOW about the series of waves, but maybe the tide sucking back out before them just happened when it was too dark to tell. And what I want to know about is whirlpool-generated tsunamis. That doesn't fit well with my understanding of how they happen. WHAT was that whirlpool about?

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  6. http://www.livescience.com/13182-japan-tsunami-whirlpool.html

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  7. I can see the livescience people work overtime, not to report science, but to propagandize against the denizens of Out There who insist all the documentation of ancient history is NOT "myth".

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  8. AND the whirlpool was moving counter-clockwise in the NORTHERN hemisphere. WHAT is that about. I'm not convinced by this bathymetry stuff. That damn whirlpool would be almost an expected feature of some sort of application torsion physics technology, but NOT natural when counter-clockwise in Japan. Australia maybe, but not Japan.

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  9. It wasn't a whirlpool like Charybdis. It was a temporary swirling current.
    Actually, coriolis force makes low pressure storm systems rotate counterclockwise in northern hemisphere, clockwise is southern. So counterclockwise is normal for Japan.

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  10. It was a long temporary and I, of course, think you have that backwards. I am easily completely confused on this, but I still think you have the whirlpool thing backwards.

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  11. Nope. Coriolis force causes hurricanes to rotate counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere.
    Imagine yourself in space looking down on the poles. The earth spins counterclockwise when looking down on the north pole, clockwise if looking at the south.

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  12. pic of hurricane katrina
    http://blog.lib.umn.edu/olso4158/architecture/katrina-hurricane-pic3%5B1%5D.jpg

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  13. I'm talking whirlpools... water... water swirling down the drain... not atmospheric disturbances. Maybe I have it backwards. Now I gotta go fill the sink....

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  14. It seems we are both sort of right.... Things go clockwise in the northern hemisphere in the absence of disturbance, but not necessarily when there is disturbance. My gig about the tsunami whirlpool is that the tsunami is supposedly caused by a mass disturbance that displaces huge amounts of water and sends a wave or waves out to re-equilibriate. So the wave hits and a whirlpool shows up just off shore and keeps going for X amount of time... a remarkably long time I don't know the duration of but know it kept going unbelievably long... I don't think the disturbance would have kept up long enough to keep it going counterclockwise very long... or it would have been willy-nilly and breaking up and reforming... not this big vexing wrong way whirlpool.

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  15. Water behaves the same as the air under the Coriolis force. Counterclockwise is the norm for the northern hemisphere.

    The larger the system the stronger the force.
    Some tornadoes (Small systems) spin clockwise but mostly counterclockwise. Large systems such as hurricanes all spin counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere. Even most of the storm systems we get here off the Pacific display this rotation.

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  16. That is wrong when you are talking water or air that isn't acting under some greater force. Everything in the north trends clockwise unless significant disturbance is acting on it. The tsunami force had already broken over Japan and yet the whirlpool kept up.

    This would come under the heading of a "small system" and weaker force... except an invisible one... it might well have been natural, but I've never heard of such a thing before, and don't grok WHAT force could keep the sucker going for very long AFTER the tsunami.

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  17. HERE is an illustration to make my point.

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  18. north is counterclockwise - the way you're rotating if you're standing on the north pole.

    The whole water down the drain thing is a myth.
    http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadCoriolis.html

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  19. Click my goddam illustration link please.

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  20. Rotate the top of the globe in that pic toward you and you'll see it has the earth spinning backwards.

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  21. Or, since you seem to think water down the drain is affected, go flush your toilet and see which way it swirls.

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  22. I can see how the receding water bumping back into the tide between the breaks might do this for a minute or so, but it went on for quite a bit longer than that. I'm just having trouble finding out exactly how much longer. Two minutes is the longest video I'm finding now that I'm trying to show you what I mean, but I saw one earlier going on a lot longer than that.

    I'm telling you that a force had to be working on it to make that happen and the water alone, except for a minute or so, wouldn't do that.

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  23. Toilet water swirls in whatever direction the little flushing outlets point it. And the northern and southern hemisphere is NOT an urban legend. It's like watching a transparent clock from in front or in back. It APPEARS to be going the opposite direction from the back. STILL this does not get down to the basic tendency of water and air motions, not acting under disturbance or extra force, in the hemispheres.

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  24. And THESE tsunami whirlpools are going CLOCKWISE.

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  25. Brueh island is in Indonesia

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  26. Still in the northern hemisphere! North of Banda Aceh.

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