a little teaser of justice after years and years

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Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, Bagram, black sites, how many secret bases, Argentina, Central America, everywhere... what do we care?

US judge bans Guantanamo witness
Court delays start of the first civilian trial for a Guantanamo Bay detainee citing irregularities with state witness.
Last Modified: 06 Oct 2010 16:04 GMT

The first civilian trial for a Guantanamo Bay detainee has been delayed after a judge told prosecutors they cannot call their star witness.

Lewis A Kaplan, the US district judge, blocked the government on Wednesday from calling a man who authorities said, sold explosives to Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, the defendant.

Defence lawyers say investigators only learned about the witness after Ghailani underwent harsh interrogation at a secret CIA-run camp overseas between 2004 and 2006.

"The court has not reached this conclusion lightly," Kaplan wrote. "It is acutely aware of the perilous nature of the world in which we live. But the constitution is the rock upon which our nation rests. We must follow it not when it is convenient, but when fear and danger beckon in a different direction."

The government immediately asked for a delay of the trial, which had been expected to begin with opening statements on Wednesday, so that it has time to appeal the ruling, should it decide to do so.

The judge sent a pool of 66 jurors home until Tuesday, but not before warning them to avoid following the case on the news or discussing it with anyone.

Ghailani is charged with conspiring in the 1998 bombings of two US embassies in Africa.

The attacks killed 224 people, including a dozen Americans.

The judge issued his written three-page ruling after a hearing three weeks ago in which Hussein Abebe, the witness, testified about his dealings with authorities.

"The government has failed to prove that Abebe's testimony is sufficiently attenuated from Ghailani's coerced statements to permit its receipt in evidence," Kaplan wrote.

The defence had asked the judge to exclude Abebe's testimony on the grounds that it would be the product of statements made by Ghailani to the CIA under duress.

On that point, Kaplan said, "Abebe was identified and located as a close and direct result of statements made by Ghailani while he was held by the CIA. The government has elected not to litigate the details of Ghailani's treatment while in CIA custody. It has sought to make this unnecessary by asking the court to assume in deciding this motion that everything Ghailani said while in CIA custody was coerced."

The judge noted that he had previously rejected defence motions to dismiss the indictment on the grounds that Ghailani was deprived of a speedy trial and that his treatment by the CIA was so outrageous as to require termination of the charges.

How much of this does it take?

I guess we can set our stopwatches on the prosecution's appeal.

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OR JUST WAIT FOR THEM TO COME FOR US....

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THEN try to stave it off....

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love, 99
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i don't care what his name is

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He's a Louisiana shrimper sitting in his kitchen that's still totally messed up from Katrina. What else do you need to know about him? This country has ruined his life. Yeah, no, we didn't cause Katrina, but we CERTAINLY made that worse for everyone, and now THIS. The guy is shaving years off his life every time he takes a breath and WHO is helping him out of THAT? We SO have NEVER had any right to call anyone else "barbaric" and that goes triple now.

People always think that giving victims names and faces is some kind of help. WHAT does it help? Bubkes. Our inhumanity continues along like a cosmic steamroller flattening infinity. The residents of the Gulf Coast are of NO moment to BP or the sundry government agencies and officials who accommodate them. They are like the dead fish. Nothing. Even yet, most of them think that if they were in any real danger the government would let them know.

How many times can I shoot myself in the head? How many times screaming naked off a cliff? How many herds of cows roam Northern California from my legendary interspecies parturition in public? I must get you the visions of the Arthurian Knights. I have to become perfectly clear on how to get that world healing information into your brains.

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ANOTHER one

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Pardon me, but... well... that might NOT have been food poisoning. It could be the rapid succession of monumentally—apocalyptically—awful big old fat hairy duhs rolling down the pike lately.

WHO was not dirt certain of this before the ground stopped shaking?

WHO outta that pack of Cub Scouts had any doubt when Bubba and Dubya were sent?

FUCK! If I had not taken the bodhisattva vow, I'd be puking with frustration right now.

Are you hearin' me about that waking up thing?

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the wendigo is wasichu

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These asswipes really get on my nerves. This climate change bullshit has GOT to stop. I can completely hang with why so many are so skeptical of the whole thing, seeing as I have how utterly deluded, venal, eager to accommodate funders, and outright evil even the best universities and their staffs have been, are now, and can be expected to keep being for the rest of time, but what drives me up a wall is these FUCKHEADS, these cannibals taking potshots, screaming and screeching, foaming at the mouth and generally acting like dancing pigs with rabies, instead of, say, going out and measuring the oceans' acidity and discerning for themselves if, anthropogenic or otherwise, our planet is as apocalyptically sick as ANYONE WITH EYES CAN TELL SOMETHING REALLY SERIOUS NEEDS DOING ABOUT IT...

EVEN IF IT WOULD FAIL.

These bottomlessly entitled wasichu need to get OFF their lazy, lazy, lazy, genocidally IGNORANT, asses and DO THE WORK to be decent human beings. The planet is coming down around our ears and I am SICK of this filthy bickering where unity and altruism belong.

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are you getting the message yet?

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How much of this do you take? Remember those savages we decked? Do you remember what they were saying to us? Do you care? Can you get open yer brainbox and look?

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biological weapons, gulf war syndrome and barack hussein yoo

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Boiling frogs in anthrax and depleted uranium and criminal government....
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we couldn't stop them from murdering him

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... but we can damn well stop them from assassinating him all over again.

They are doing this because historians and investigative reporters have made strides in figuring out who killed him, what really came down on that darkest of days for all humanity, and they NEED to help enough people be ready to let it go all over again. You KNOW I'm right. What will you do to prevent this?
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Has to be more than a petition....
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i am ashamed

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the order was given as the polls closed in 2004

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Since we'd failed so abysmally the first time, we gave them everything we've got the second time... and the people of Fallujah might be better off just moving as far away as they can... the people of IRAQ are better off moving as far away as they can.

poor guy

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why DIDN'T it cause a riot?

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WHY DIDN'T IT CAUSE A RIOT?

Answer me, goddammit!

not to defend the turd or nuthin'

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...but a lotta people from our generation do not associate the term "lynching" with racial hatred. We grew up on Westerns, and to us it means the sheriff rounding up a posse before the citizens form a lynch mob. Whenever I think of lynching someone, it's in that light. It's recognition that the sheriff has stopped rounding up posses to catch the bad guys....

fucking hypocrites

You know it makes me so sick at heart when peaceniks dwell on the atrocities of war, call the soldiers racist, call the soldiers hired killers, call the soldiers corporate militiamen... sit back unwilling to even risk a mortgage payment, let alone their lives, to stop the warmongers. My dad spent his pay supporting Korean widows and orphans when he was in the Army, and I don't think that is unusual among our servicemen. I am truly sickened by all the self-righteousness, the cheap talk, of so-called pacifists. You aren't a pacifist if you will not stake your life on stopping war. If you would not nuke Washington, D.C. to stop them killing millions of innocents with their evil abuses of power -- will not realize everyone who has died for your freedom since 1776 had as much to lose as you do, and quit with your excuses and finger-pointing -- if you will not die in defense of life, I wish you would just crawl back into your hole and shut up.

they're not pets -- they're us