Teeth-droppingly fun. Holy bat guano. Alex just went on and shocked the shit outta the gals. Toadally, toadally bulldozed through their obfuscating bullcrap. It rocked.
Probably didn't help Charlie any, but it was great.
The ONE notion that bodes well is that they asked him on at all. I'm sure they thought he'd be so humbled by an MSM appearance that he wouldn't rock too many boats, but MAYBE they did it precisely to help without looking like they were trying to do it.... I mean, Whoopie can't have sold out THAT hard, can she?
Baba Wawa I don't believe is constitutionally able to lay one that big and live through it... part of why I have a vague suspicion it was fake... and Whoopie changing her spots after all this time? Fishy.
I say some things a while back that changed my thoughts on Whoopie, however I can't recall what they were. I think dissing 9/11 truthers was part of it.
But I can't see any way to function truthfully while holding that against people. I'm squarely in agreement about it showing a bad character flaw, but I'm also aware that humans, even really, really good ones, just cannot always do the right thing when everything they've worked for or stood for threatens to evaporate on them if they do not take this despicable stance. I know I'm usually really harsh on people about this sort of thing, but I'm actually cognizant that everyone must choose for themselves and I don't have the right to look down on them when they may have made the odious-to-me choice based on a personal assessment of the balance of how much good they can do vs. how much good they could not do if they got real.
Maybe Whoopie has just settled for being a mainstream icon, a mainstream black woman, and is calling it good. That was a MAJOR accomplishment... not, mind you, anything as beautiful as, say, Cynthia McKinney's... but look where Cynthia is now. That might have everything to do with Whoopie dissing 9/11 Truthers.
Unfortunately, getting to be mainstream is NOT the mark of distinction almost everyone has been made to believe it is. Lethal delusion. Lethal delusion. It's going literally to kill us all.
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The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so. —Ronald Reagan
Some of us who have already begun to break the silence of the night have found that the calling to speak is often a vocation of agony, but we must speak. We must speak with all the humility that is appropriate to our limited vision, but we must speak. —Martin Luther King
We're all fucked. I'm fucked. You're fucked. The whole department is fucked. It's the biggest cock-up ever. We're all completely fucked. —not uttered by anyone in charge lately
Anyone calling Obama a leftist, liberal, or progressive needs to have the stupid beat out of them. —Old Uncle Dave
As for the Taliban ... their stated grievance is the same as Gen. Washington’s in our war with the British: If you want this war to end, get out of our country. —Pat Buchanan
Obama-era drone warfare ... in general looks like Bush-era drone warfare on steroids. —Scott Horton
There has to be altruism in the universe. —Frank Drake
The morons in Washington are pushing the envelope of nuclear war. The insane drive for American hegemony threatens life on earth. The American people, by accepting the lies and deceptions of “their” government, are facilitating this outcome. —Paul Craig Roberts
I am a child of the South. Janet Napolitano tells me I need to be afraid of people who are labeled white supremacists but I was raised around white supremacists. I am not afraid of white supremacists. I am concerned about my own government. The Patriot Act did not come from the white supremacists, it came from the White House and Congress. Citizens United did not come from white supremacists, it came from the Supreme Court. —Cynthia McKinney
No one has to "marry" anyone else politically; no one has to embrace every tenet or belief that an anti-imperialist ally might hold. You simply have to say: "All of us, regardless of our other views, believe this truth to be self-evident: dismantling the empire will bring immediate and enormous benefits to our nation and to the world." —Chris Floyd
The power of the people on top depends on the obedience of the people below. —Howard Zinn
...the government only starts listening to its voters once the more corrupt option turns out to be untenable. —Matt Taibbi
· One out of seven American homeowners will probably lose their homes by the end of 2010.
· Only 4.7 percent of distressed homeowners who enrolled in the modification plan have gotten any help.
· Out of Obama's $75 billion program, only $2.3 million has been spent—or 0.03 percent.
Obama's performance on the foreclosure crisis—along with unemployment, the biggest problem America faces—makes Bush's laissez faire approach to Hurricane Katrina look caring and loving in comparison. If ever there were a cause for impeachment, look no further. —Ted Rall
As self-appointed champions of civilisation against barbarism, they fail to see that a certain barbarism is the flipside of civilisation itself, inseparable from its smooth operation. For every cathedral, a pit of bones; for every artistic masterpiece, human wretchedness and back-breaking toil. —Terry Eagleton
Here at home and throughout the world people are fighting back against the forces of wealth, privilege, and militarism — some because they have no choice, others because they would choose no other course but the one that leads to peace and justice. —Michael Parenti
I've found that culture, however useful and important, is neither the foundation nor the ceiling of human experience, even if it is commonly used for walls. —Thomas Cleary
I really consider President and Mrs. Mubarak to be friends of my family. So I hope to see him often here in Egypt and in the United States. —Hillary Clinton
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Kool-Aid Pie
* 1 14-ounce can sweetened condensed milk * 1 envelope Kool-Aid (any flavor) * 1 small tub Cool Whip, thawed
Mix ingredients until thoroughly combined. Pour into ready-made graham cracker pie crust and refrigerate at least one hour before serving.
Oh god...
ReplyDeleteI have to go get younger daughter from her new job right now...
Can't wait to get home to watch this! Looks like fun!
Teeth-droppingly fun. Holy bat guano. Alex just went on and shocked the shit outta the gals. Toadally, toadally bulldozed through their obfuscating bullcrap. It rocked.
ReplyDeleteProbably didn't help Charlie any, but it was great.
The ONE notion that bodes well is that they asked him on at all. I'm sure they thought he'd be so humbled by an MSM appearance that he wouldn't rock too many boats, but MAYBE they did it precisely to help without looking like they were trying to do it.... I mean, Whoopie can't have sold out THAT hard, can she?
A clutch of hens laying too big eggs!
ReplyDeleteBaba Wawa I don't believe is constitutionally able to lay one that big and live through it... part of why I have a vague suspicion it was fake... and Whoopie changing her spots after all this time? Fishy.
ReplyDeleteI say some things a while back that changed my thoughts on Whoopie, however I can't recall what they were. I think dissing 9/11 truthers was part of it.
ReplyDeleteThat usually does it for most people.
ReplyDeleteBut I can't see any way to function truthfully while holding that against people. I'm squarely in agreement about it showing a bad character flaw, but I'm also aware that humans, even really, really good ones, just cannot always do the right thing when everything they've worked for or stood for threatens to evaporate on them if they do not take this despicable stance. I know I'm usually really harsh on people about this sort of thing, but I'm actually cognizant that everyone must choose for themselves and I don't have the right to look down on them when they may have made the odious-to-me choice based on a personal assessment of the balance of how much good they can do vs. how much good they could not do if they got real.
Maybe Whoopie has just settled for being a mainstream icon, a mainstream black woman, and is calling it good. That was a MAJOR accomplishment... not, mind you, anything as beautiful as, say, Cynthia McKinney's... but look where Cynthia is now. That might have everything to do with Whoopie dissing 9/11 Truthers.
Unfortunately, getting to be mainstream is NOT the mark of distinction almost everyone has been made to believe it is. Lethal delusion. Lethal delusion. It's going literally to kill us all.