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Update: Substantive part of interview over, and now just linked behind her picture. When/if I can find a video or audio link or mp3 of it, I will link you to that.____________________________________________________________
I have no clue if it will work, but at 11am Pacific Time, we're supposed to be able to see a live interview with Susan Lindauer about 9/11 and other interesting subjects on
Republic Media TV.... I guess we're gonna see.
[It worked great.]
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3pm -- Okay, this is long, but he said they'd be reairing this directly, so if you're just showing up, you should be seeing Susan Lindauer testifying about foreknowledge of 9/11 and no WMD in Iraq and other positively outrageous bits of intelligence that absolutely never reached the American public. So you want to just sit there and watch. If it's archived, I will absolutely link it for you. She's on for about two hours, and then there's a long call in section that is pretty much not on topic you can miss.
So anyway there's someone yammering about Ron Paul at this very moment, but I think we can expect the Lindauer interview to come back on pretty soon.
If not, I'll rip out the player until we can get the real thing again.
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3:05pm -- It is now reairing. It starts with a bunch of bullshit technical problems, but be patient, she ends up getting on the air with him and it will knock your socks off.
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Here's Michael Collins' report on the matter.
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Bottom line, for those of you who miss this, she says the Arabs really hijacked the planes per plan on 9/11, and she, a longtime intelligence asset of ours, warned the administration darn explicitly about it in advance. And she says the Israelis just helped make it the glorious success that it turned out to be. She says the administration won't let us hear this because Israel is supposed to be our great friend and ally.
She says also that McVeigh and/or Nichols met with Arab terrorists in the Phillipines to plan the Oklahoma City bombing.
She first was gagged but left out on bail, but then was arrested and put in a military prison pending determination of her competency to stand trial, but the whole case was dropped just before Obama took office.
I'm interested in exploring with you guys about the possible veracity of this stuff. We know we already are very willing to believe this stuff, and so that means the government does also. This could be an elaborately planned limited hangout and it could be the whole truth. So I really hope everybody gets a chance to listen carefully to her, and will do everything I can to make sure you are able to if you are so inclined.
Personally, I don't believe any Arabs had anything to do with Oklahoma City, or, at least not wittingly, to do with 9/11. I can see very clearly how Larry Silverstein and the maniac Zionists out there would have had the power and interest -- the motives, means and opportunities -- to pull off 9/11, though. So I'm wondering if you think this could be a limited hangout to help get everybody back on board against the Arabs... even if it strengthens our suspicions about Israeli involvement... something it will take a metaphoric nuke to get any mainstream help with... but not at all on the Arab part.
And who is interested in helping run down some of the names she mentions? Anyone?
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For instance, why would this
Richard Fuisz, her supposed CIA handler, insist that
she call Ashcroft's office to get this alert out? Why have someone who has to prove she's on the up and up call when he could call and there would be no question? Is this about that separation of agencies bit? Is that weird?
[Seems that at one time
Fuisz was a NOC -- which NOC status would stop him calling the DoJ -- but certainly by the time he's Lindauer's handler he can't still be undercover, can he? And if so, can he still be if she's talking about him now? And as long as his cover is blown, where's his corroboration for this?]
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Trying to take her opinions and intelligence bits at face value, I'm still certain that there had to be government, or at least military, involvement, because one of the planes disappeared altogether and another one, 93, was shot down. A hijacked airliner absolutely did not hit the Pentagon. It was a fucking missile, maybe in drag as a small plane, but it absolutely was not a 757. So, we can look to the double-citizenship, and rabid Zionist, high ranking officials in the Pentagon and in Congress and in business and in the military, but our government/military/power-brokers had to be involved.
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Why was she left out in circulation until September 2005 if they were so determined to shut her up about their foreknowledge of 9/11 and the Israeli involvement? Did they trust that she couldn't get the information out until she got a court date, and when they couldn't put her off anymore decide to arrest her for purposes of "determining her competence for trial"? And then drag that out against all reason and numerous laws until 15 January 2009? This could be about the size of it, but, so, well, what's preventing her from getting in front of a congressional panel right now?
...instead of, or in addition to, this glitch-filled bit of independent media?
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Big Dan's OKC link that won't work in the comments section... konsarn kommenting kaos.
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And, Prav... uh, I mean, the AP, had this to say about her recent release... totally slimed her... reason to believe her more? Or what?
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Update: 26 January: Here's a
snippet related to the missile that hit the Pentagon that
Plunger mentioned at
Big Dan's, which I think helps cast some light on this story:
2001-09-11 Stanley Hall Raytheon Director of Electronic warfare program management. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 77, the one that supposedly hit the Pentagon but did not.
2001-09-11 Peter Gay Raytheon VP of Electronic Systems on special assignment at the El Segundo, CA division office where the Global Hawk UAV remote control system is made. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.
2001-09-11 Kenneth Waldie Raytheon Senior Quality Control for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.
2001-09-11 David Kovalcin Raytheon Senior Mechanical Engineer for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.
2001-09-11 Herbert Homer Raytheon Corporate Executive working with the Department of Defense. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on United airlines Flight 175, the one that supposedly hit the South World Trade Tower II.
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Many were surprised when they learned that Raytheon executives and experts perished (or were disappeared) on 9-11 but we were not for one reason. We received a tip that an A-3 Skywarrior had been outfitted to operate as an UAV by Raytheon and it may well have been the plane used to attack the Pentagon. That hole through the Pentagon is a unique signature and not one made by an airplane. That 16 foot tunnel through three rings of the Pentagon is only made by a directional blast weapon. Rumsfeld has even slipped up and mentioned the missile that hit the Pentagon.
Some have seen the Pentagon parking lot camera video and the white trail of smoke. Jets do now leave white trails of smoke at sea level, but Thiokol powered AGMs do, at all attitudes.
The Boeing 757 commercial airliner is not equipped for mounting or launching of an AGM, but the A-3 Skywarrior is and that is exactly one of the reasons the planes are still in use.
I'm not happy with the wording in the first part about the Raytheon guys, but this is the gist.
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Oh, crap, you know what? The damn wording tripped me up and got me backasswards about the A-3 and the AGM bit again. This has happened to me a couple times in the great debates about what hit the Pentagon.
A GODDAM MISSILE HIT THE PENTAGON!
I have allowed as how the missile might have been in drag, made to look more like a plane, but that's as far as she goes.
I was in front of the tv when they showed the first shots. It was a missile. No airplane, and outright no way the hole was made by an airplane. Immediately apparent. Plus, I have researched this long and hard. So I'm all worked up again because there was no mention of this from Lindauer, just insisting that Arabs hijacked the four planes and the Israelis helped make it more spectacular, and this missile into the Pentagon bears on her story in that it tends to make it less credible, and here I go getting upside down on the A-3/AGM thing again. Heavy sigh. Oh. Well.
I'm just going to give that entire blockquote again, only this time with me rewording it for clarity and correcting typos, and see if we like the picture that emerges just a little better:
2001-09-11 -- Stanley Hall, Raytheon Director of Electronic Warfare Program Management. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon with an air to ground missile [AGM], where the official story claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 77, the one that allegedly hit the Pentagon but did not.
2001-09-11 -- Peter Gay, Raytheon VP of Electronic Systems on special assignment at the El Segundo, CA division office where the Global Hawk UAV [unmanned aerial vehicle] remote control system is made. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon with an AGM, where the official story claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that allegedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.
2001-09-11 -- Kenneth Waldie, Raytheon Senior Quality Control for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon with an AGM, where the official story claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that allegedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.
2001-09-11 -- David Kovalcin, Raytheon Senior Mechanical Engineer for Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon with an AGM, where the official story claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American airlines Flight 11, the one that allegedly hit the North World Trade Tower I.
2001-09-11 -- Herbert Homer, Raytheon Corporate Executive working with the Department of Defense. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the Pentagon with an AGM, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on United airlines Flight 175, the one that allegedly hit the South World Trade Tower II.
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Many were surprised when they learned that Raytheon executives and experts perished (or were disappeared) on 9-11 but we were not for one reason. We received a tip that an A-3 Skywarrior had been outfitted to operate as an UAV by Raytheon and it may well have been the plane used to attack the Pentagon. That hole through the Pentagon is a unique signature and not one made by an airplane. That 16 foot tunnel through three rings of the Pentagon is only made by a directional blast weapon. Rumsfeld has even slipped up and mentioned the missile that hit the Pentagon.
Some have seen the Pentagon parking lot camera video and the white trail of smoke. Jets do not leave white trails of smoke at sea level, but Thiokol powered AGMs do, at all altitudes.
The Boeing 757 commercial airliner is not equipped for mounting or launching an AGM, but the A-3 Skywarrior is and that is exactly one of the reasons the planes are still in use.
You can see from the second part of the snippet what "the A-3 that hit the Pentagon" part in the first meant to say, did say, but not in lingo laypersons quibbling over what kind of projectile actually hit the building could readily understand. So, we're all clear, again, now, right?
And so now, it still could be she is right about Arabs hijacking the four planes and the Israelis took out the plane bound for the Pentagon, but, well, I doubt it. With so much work for a controlled demolition of the WTC and so much work for such a precise strike on the Pentagon, why leave it to a bunch of Arabs to maybe mess up your plans somehow?
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